Re:America's 1% Has Taken $50T From the Bottom 90%
by breatheoften on Thursday February 11, 2021 @06:00PM
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B. I've been contemplating a mechanism based on mandatory minimum paid vacation days per year - fed provides free access to the money, corps borrow it or whatever to earn some interest -- but corps must pay employees a minimum days off per year (a large amount -- like 1-2 months per year)
The value of currency and debt has diverged too far from quality of life concerns -- days off seem a direct way to inject quality of life capital into the system and, I think, could prove an investment able to unearth very new and effective social transformation capabilities ... as well as a new shared basis from which to renegotiate and rebalance our social contracts.
Re:America's 1% Has Taken $50T From the Bottom 90%
by InitialLastName on Thursday February 11, 2021 @05:37PM
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> B. A balancing mechanic -- Some more universally-accessable way to inject income at the base of the economy.
Something like, for example, giving $1000 to every adult?
Re:America's 1% Has Taken $50T From the Bottom 90%
by CyberDildonics on Thursday February 11, 2021 @06:11PM
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Possibly, though printing off $40,000 for every tax payer then cutting them a few thousand is probably not going to be the best approach.
Re:America's 1% Has Taken $50T From the Bottom 90%
by Aunche on Thursday February 11, 2021 @06:37PM
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Where did you get $40,000 from?
Re:America's 1% Has Taken $50T From the Bottom 90%
by CyberDildonics on Thursday February 11, 2021 @07:10PM
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5.3 Trillion in stimulus divided by 150 million people who pay income tax in the US is actually $35.3k USD. The final stimulus toll may be higher and taxes come from a variety of places so that may be high for the final burden per person, but I think it will be close by the time all is said and done.
Re:America's 1% Has Taken $50T From the Bottom 90%
by Aunche on Thursday February 11, 2021 @09:16PM
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The stimulus checks, unemployment benefits, at least 85% of PPP money, and education funding all solely benefit regular taxpayers. Large corporations got the equivalent to subsidized loans. Let's say that random pork projects benefit both groups equally. I don't see how regular taxpayers are losing out here.
Re:America's 1% Has Taken $50T From the Bottom 90%
by anchpop on Thursday February 11, 2021 @05:48PM
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This is risky, because if the fed accidentally injects too much money by buying back too many bonds, they can always un-inject it by selling the bonds back (and banks are compelled to buy). This lets the fed be more aggressive because it knows that if it goes too far and starts seeing more inflation than it intended, it can always walk back its decision. But there's no realistic way to do that after having given $1000 to every adult.
Re:America's 1% Has Taken $50T From the Bottom 90%
by tylerhou on Thursday February 11, 2021 @06:02PM
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Taxes?
Re:America's 1% Has Taken $50T From the Bottom 90%
by notriddle on Thursday February 11, 2021 @07:32PM
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The Fed can't make taxes. Congress makes taxes, but Congress is subject to popular approval, and the population don't like tax hikes.
Re:America's 1% Has Taken $50T From the Bottom 90%
by tylerhou on Thursday February 11, 2021 @09:18PM
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The Fed also can't give $1000 to everyone.
Re:America's 1% Has Taken $50T From the Bottom 90%
by jackcosgrove on Thursday February 11, 2021 @07:48PM
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Changes in tax rates require Congress to act. Too slow moving to be a money supply control.
Re:America's 1% Has Taken $50T From the Bottom 90%
by dragonwriter on Thursday February 11, 2021 @07:20PM
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> The problem is that the Fed only has the power to inject dollars at the top of the economy
No, that's not the problem.
The problem is Congress [0] has been asleep at the switch on fiscal policy since the administration of George W. Bush.
[0] in the sense of “the body that legislates, including the effect of the President acting in his legislative role”.
I think an MMO designer would suggest two options:
A. Nerf the Fed, which would have the problems you note.
B. A balancing mechanic -- Some more universally-accessable way to inject income at the base of the economy.