Re:I don't want to do front-end anymore
by dimitrios1 on Tuesday February 09, 2021 @10:26AM
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I've just come back to standard web architecture these days. Just use Rails, Laravel, or Phoenix. While your compatriots will still be configuring their prettierrc and eslint, you'll have released your first set of features.
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Re:I don't want to do front-end anymore
by bluefirebrand on Tuesday February 09, 2021 @11:53AM
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Yeah. It's fine for personal projects or small things but good luck convincing a big company that what they really need is 2009 technology nowadays.
Re:I don't want to do front-end anymore
by tonyedgecombe on Tuesday February 09, 2021 @12:42PM
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Well they are relying on 1995 technology (JavaScript).
Re:I don't want to do front-end anymore
by veidelis on Tuesday February 09, 2021 @01:12PM
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This is a weird statement. You are completely ignoring how the JS API in browsers has evolved.
Re:I don't want to do front-end anymore
by AlchemistCamp on Tuesday February 09, 2021 @02:12PM
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And the parent was calling Phoenix and Laravel, neither of which even existed in 2009, 2009 technology.
Re:I don't want to do front-end anymore
by bluefirebrand on Tuesday February 09, 2021 @02:28PM
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Was referring to rails, but sure.
And yes, I was wrong, rails has been around longer than that, it was just a guess.
Re:I don't want to do front-end anymore
by AlchemistCamp on Wednesday February 10, 2021 @04:56AM
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It's still called Rails but it's a radically different framework now. 2009 was before the big merge with Merb (a then competing framework).
Re:I don't want to do front-end anymore
by arvinsim on Tuesday February 09, 2021 @12:15PM
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Is Phoenix really that mainstream now?
Re:I don't want to do front-end anymore
by AlchemistCamp on Tuesday February 09, 2021 @02:07PM
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The person you're answering said nothing about Phoenix being mainstream, but it's mainstream enough for Discord and Brex to build unicorns on its back.
The reason I've been teaching it myself, despite Elixir being a young, niche language is that I believe it's an ideal choice for a solo-founder or small team trying to build an ambitious web app. It's a tool I personally want to have at my disposal.
Discord is a great model: start with a simple Phoenix app, ship way faster than the competition, build out more sophisticated infrastructure with scale, and then finally rewrite core loops as NIFs (natively invoked functions) that are implemented in Rust. They were in a crowded market with extremely well-funded competitors and they still built a considerable lead in product and infrastructure.