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Re:How to lower the price of plant-based meat by hombre_fatal on Saturday February 06, 2021 @09:34PM (#26052123)
This seems to suggest that you think our meat comes from animals who kinda exist and compete mutually with crops when actually we feed most of our crops to animals.

If there was an ecological disaster that killed crop production, we wouldn't waste it by feeding it to animals for a grossly inefficient luxury item.

It's like when people try to make a "pro-meat" claim by pointing out how much water it takes to grow a pound of almonds, only possible because they never looked up how much water it took to grow a pound of beef.

Re:How to lower the price of plant-based meat by therealdrag0 on Sunday February 07, 2021 @02:50AM (#26053410)
> If there was an ecological disaster that killed crop production, we wouldn't waste it by feeding it to animals for a grossly inefficient luxury item.

This is what I interpreted the parent comment as saying.

Re:How to lower the price of plant-based meat by imhoguy on Sunday February 07, 2021 @03:19AM (#26053529)
Most animals can feed on wild grasses which we can't digest. They can serve us with a lot of resources and stay alive too (milk, wool, eggs). But if the event is so severe that even grass is gone, then rats are left and canibalism.
Re:How to lower the price of plant-based meat by bbarnett on Sunday February 07, 2021 @07:46AM (#26054651)
A good point.

Also:

https://www.covercropstrategies.com/articles/1368-adding-hay...

There's also strong logic in having hay as part of crop rotation, which as we know, is vital to reduce the need for fertilizer.

On top of this, there's loads of land useless for anything other than grazing. Too dry, with no irrigation (only usable for grazing in the spring). Too rocky, too much of a slope, soil quality not right (too much clay, etc, etc), yet still able to support grasses.

There's a lot of grazing done, in and outside of the US.

Lastly, and this was mentioned GP, it's vital to produce more than we eat each year. Extremely vital. Part of all the subsidies we have, is to ensure farmers DO grow more than required.

To ensure that the free market, doesn't bottom out pricing too much, because we have farmers over producing. If you want to start removing subsidies, then you should first ensure people have a year's worth of canned emergency food on hand.

If people get hungry, that's where the knives come out. If your kid is hungry, you're going to feed it.

Re:How to lower the price of plant-based meat by m463 on Sunday February 07, 2021 @03:56AM (#26053675)
That's what I meant by meat pyramid (we're both arguing the same point)