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Re:How to lower the price of plant-based meat by f430 on Saturday February 06, 2021 @06:18PM (#26051069)
yeah the whole sustainability issue arises because of our excessive consumption. Just limit your intake by at least 50% or more and then slowly raise it by eating more vegetables.

The whole narrative around sustainability of meat has been completely hijacked by corporate interests who wants to push non-meat as meat.

Their whole goal is to enmesh it at a cultural level so that they can increase sales, not really concerned about the real problem which is cruelty, indifference to the treatment of animals by the bovine industrial complex.

We are simply seeing the usurpation of the latter group by a new commerce-first-pseudo-sustainability industrial complex. It's even more dangerous now because of the misinformation and groupthink by self appointed morality police.

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Re:How to lower the price of plant-based meat by Dylan16807 on Saturday February 06, 2021 @09:57PM (#26052232)
> explain.

There is no animal cruelty in its production, so that solves the problem of "making this kind of thing is cruel to animals".

To be more specific, I mean the whole scenario of people buying it "as meat" removes all animal cruelty from their meat-motivated food purchases. Not that the product will stop people from kicking puppies somehow.

> do you realize the paradox of this sentence?

No, what is it? I said "amoral", not "immoral", and I said "very much".

It's a little worrying that companies are amoral, but that applies to every company ever. If a company is doing a good thing, then I give it a thumbs up.

Re:How to lower the price of plant-based meat by f430 on Saturday February 06, 2021 @10:49PM (#26052478)
explain how killing plants is the solution to the subsidized bovine industry's continued production of meats
Re:How to lower the price of plant-based meat by Dylan16807 on Sunday February 07, 2021 @12:52AM (#26052981)
The former replaces the latter 1:1.

That's a solution on the product level. It's not a solution on the systemic level, but that's not what I meant.

It's at the same level as "cut your intake 50%", but more effective.

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Re:How to lower the price of plant-based meat by Dylan16807 on Sunday February 07, 2021 @04:29PM (#26058346)
> wait what? so everybody is eating grass but being tricked into thinking its meat today?

No, some people are eating grass and then not eating meat. And I'm not talking about today specifically but in general. 100 calories of A replace 100 calories of B.

> It's going to cause the government to kill subsidies therefore jobs and not get their votes from bovine states?

If people don't buy meat, then meat isn't made, subsidies or not.

> Ignorant of their commercial interests and completely brainwashed by their cultural narrative.

Whose interests? I'm not sure what you think I'm missing.

> You know not everybody shares your dull sense of taste right? You know people can taste the difference and they have no plans of accepting the future you fantasize right?

But... you were suggesting people eat less meat and more vegetables!

Being able to tell the difference doesn't mean you can't swap one for the other.