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Re:Big name corporations more likely to commit fraud: study by jjcon on Saturday February 06, 2021 @11:10AM (#26047451)
It may not have direct monetary impacts as large but I would argue the effects of high street crime are much higher and harder to account for. People know that backroom deals by fat cats negatively affect their lives, but they don’t feel physically unsafe because of them. Conversely if street crime is prevalent the people are fearful and feel unsafe in their homes. It only takes one break-in in a neighborhood to put everyone on their toes.
Re:Big name corporations more likely to commit fraud: study by sudosysgen on Saturday February 06, 2021 @11:17AM (#26047506)
The relationship between feelings of safety and actual crime rate is incidental. Feelings of safety are moreso a product of the media up until a certain threshold we are very far from.

Conversely, white collar crime absolutely does cause physical harm, as does most economic ruin, which is highly correlated with morbidity for the less fortunate.

Re:Big name corporations more likely to commit fraud: study by WarOnPrivacy on Saturday February 06, 2021 @12:14PM (#26047954)
> The relationship between feelings of safety and actual crime rate is incidental.

Two things that strongly support this are stranger kidnapping and domestic terrorism. Among possibilities that might take loved ones away from us, these are about the least likely.

> Feelings of safety are moreso a product of the media

The media reports distant tragedies as if they occurred in our own communities, leading the public to carry a sense of threat that doesn't reflect reality. However, the media is parroting (and amplifying) the messages that are given to it from LEO, Gov's and other official channels.

The media's shortfall is to trust Gov/LEO messaging, without spending the few moments of analysis to vet it's integrity.

Re:Big name corporations more likely to commit fraud: study by throwawayboise on Saturday February 06, 2021 @12:26PM (#26048092)
Let's not give the media such a pass as simply trusting Gov/LEO messaging. Their interest is in getting and retaining your attention, and creating fear and anxiety is a proven way to do that. They do it knowingly and with intent.
Re:Big name corporations more likely to commit fraud: study by WarOnPrivacy on Saturday February 06, 2021 @05:50PM (#26050833)
> Let's not give the media such a pass as simply trusting Gov/LEO messaging.

I was pointing out their ineptitude. Vetting info before publishing is 101.

Re:Big name corporations more likely to commit fraud: study by watwut on Saturday February 06, 2021 @12:28PM (#26048109)
Another supporting data point is fast of random murder or random rape when walking through streetd. Those are the most rare of murder and rape respectively - both are most likely to be committed by someone you know.
Re:Big name corporations more likely to commit fraud: study by WitCanStain on Saturday February 06, 2021 @11:22AM (#26047537)
That may be the case on a local level, but if we could stop corporate crime we would all (theoretically) be better off -> less street crime overall.
Re:Big name corporations more likely to commit fraud: study by andi999 on Saturday February 06, 2021 @12:15PM (#26047960)
A better off thug is still a thug. How rich or poor a country is doesn't really imply how safe.(the other implication might exist though, high crime culture can lead to decline of a country)
Re:Big name corporations more likely to commit fraud: study by wizzwizz4 on Saturday February 06, 2021 @12:28PM (#26048116)
> A better off thug is still a thug.

Citation needed.

> How rich or poor a country is doesn't really imply how safe.

Well, only because that's measured in a way that means Bill Gates could make Tuvalu the world's richest country simply by moving there. That has no bearing on whether rich people are safer – and whether extreme poverty makes people more of a risk to others.

Re:Big name corporations more likely to commit fraud: study by hannasanarion on Saturday February 06, 2021 @12:56PM (#26048349)
Contrary to the breathless screeds from fox news, "thug" is not a type of person.

Crime is something a person does, not who they are. When people do things, they do them for a reason. The most common reason for street crime is extreme poverty, and the most common cause of extreme poverty is white-collar crime.

Re:Big name corporations more likely to commit fraud: study by adwn on Saturday February 06, 2021 @01:40PM (#26048730)
> and the most common cause of extreme poverty is white-collar crime

You lost me there. Do you mean that a) of the set of extremely poor people, most are extremely poor because they've been the direct victim of white-collar crime, or b) white-collar crime as a whole is the leading cause for extreme poverty in a society?

Both interpretations seem very wrong to me. Do you have any data to back up that assertion?

Re:Big name corporations more likely to commit fraud: study by andi999 on Saturday February 06, 2021 @01:00PM (#26048392)
So a cobbler is not a cobbler?
Re:Big name corporations more likely to commit fraud: study by hannasanarion on Saturday February 06, 2021 @01:15PM (#26048523)
Yes, but they can also be a criminal.

Criminal is not a race. It is not a class. It is not a profession. Nobody is a criminal until they do a crime, and anyone can do a crime.

Most crimes are done by poor people in desperation at great risk. The most harmful crimes are done by rich people out of greed with very little risk.

Re:Big name corporations more likely to commit fraud: study by andi999 on Saturday February 06, 2021 @02:02PM (#26048927)
With thugs I mean criminal as a profession.
Re:Big name corporations more likely to commit fraud: study by DangitBobby on Saturday February 06, 2021 @11:18AM (#26047510)
I guess it depends on the nature of the street crime. If people don't feel physically safe and that they can't reasonably protect their belongings, then yes that would have broad negative impact.
Re:Big name corporations more likely to commit fraud: study by guerrilla on Saturday February 06, 2021 @11:18AM (#26047514)
> but they don’t feel physically unsafe because of it.

That seems like a mistake since it can so easily and often cause poverty.