Could you please not post in the flamewar style to HN? I'm not judging you (seriously); it's just not the kind of conversation we're looking for here, and it destroys the kind we are looking for, so having both is not an option. Sort of the same way you can't have both fires and, say, museums—or tank battles and, say, parks.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html