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Re:McKinsey to pay $573M to settle claims over opioid crisis... by rmrfrmrf on Thursday February 04, 2021 @11:04AM (#26026560)
Interesting that you think the two are mutually exclusive. Personally, I'd consider consulting advice to systematically hook an entire country onto opioids to be "useless BS" much in the same way I'd consider schemes to fix bread prices as "useless BS". Both are cases of rather obvious approaches that are not only legally and ethically bankrupt, but more importantly fundamentally unsound and unsustainable as growth strategies.
Re:McKinsey to pay $573M to settle claims over opioid crisis... by asjldkfin on Thursday February 04, 2021 @11:11AM (#26026640)
Mcks wasn’t asked for advice on ethics, they were asked advice on increasing sales.

If you go to a Tattoo artist and ask for a portrait tattooed on your face, it might be gauche as hell, but that didn’t change the fact the artist might’ve done a great job.

Re:McKinsey to pay $573M to settle claims over opioid crisis... by rmrfrmrf on Thursday February 04, 2021 @11:15AM (#26026697)
Not even close to a comparable analogy. A better analogy would be yours, but where the ink disappears after 1 day and the person getting the tattoo dies a day later.
Re:McKinsey to pay $573M to settle claims over opioid crisis... by asjldkfin on Thursday February 04, 2021 @11:18AM (#26026722)
No, it’s a perfect analogy, because it illustrates that efficacy is independent of moral perspective.
Re:McKinsey to pay $573M to settle claims over opioid crisis... by rmrfrmrf on Thursday February 04, 2021 @11:21AM (#26026748)
Morality has nothing to do with it. If consulting advice literally bankrupts your company, the advice is trash, full stop.
Re:McKinsey to pay $573M to settle claims over opioid crisis... by asjldkfin on Thursday February 04, 2021 @11:35AM (#26026928)
No, the advice Purdue asked for bankrupted the company.

Just like how asking a programmer to build a garbage program doesn’t mean the programmer is trash, it just means the specs are.

Re:McKinsey to pay $573M to settle claims over opioid crisis... by carapace on Thursday February 04, 2021 @11:57AM (#26027194)
Programmers who build garbage are part of the problem, no?
Re:McKinsey to pay $573M to settle claims over opioid crisis... by asjldkfin on Thursday February 04, 2021 @12:13PM (#26027400)
Not if they build garbage well, the quality of the code and the quality of the product are independent.
Re:McKinsey to pay $573M to settle claims over opioid crisis... by carapace on Thursday February 04, 2021 @04:56PM (#26030254)
But isn't building garbage a problem? What's the point of automatic garbage?