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Re:Google’s approach to replacing the cookie is drawing anti... by theshrike79 on Thursday February 04, 2021 @01:51AM (#26023251)
> Web advertising was a $319 billion dollar industry in 2019. Does anyone wonder who may be lobbying their government to scrutinize Google and offer themselves for interviews for articles like this?

You do know that Google is a web advertising company first?

If they're proposing something, you can be damned sure that it was vetted first by people who know how to use it for ad tracking - because that's literally their bread and butter.

Chrome will never: ban 3rd party cookies, tell which sites track you etc. They're not going to shoot themselves in the foot without a plan.

There is no situation where Google will actually care about privacy, since their whole business model exists on the fact that they know everything about their users so they can target ads better.

Re:Google’s approach to replacing the cookie is drawing anti... by llarsson on Thursday February 04, 2021 @07:21AM (#26024744)
Oh, they care about privacy just the way they care about security: valuable and actionable data about you should belong to them.

Their security people are top-notch. They guard your data very diligently. If they did not, you would not trust them with intimate details about your life.

Your privacy is the same. They will keep your data private *from their competitors*, but they will fully enjoy using it for their own purposes.

It is ludicrous to think that an advertising company, whose value proposition is precisely in its ability to target users accurately, would willingly impair their ability to do so.

They will, however, gladly make it difficult for their competition.

Re:Google’s approach to replacing the cookie is drawing anti... by loudtieblahblah on Thursday February 04, 2021 @08:10AM (#26025007)
But I don't trust them with details about my life.

At all.

Re:Google’s approach to replacing the cookie is drawing anti... by lopis on Thursday February 04, 2021 @03:02AM (#26023574)
> Chrome will never: ban 3rd party cookies

It will ban 3rd party cookies the moment Google decides it's time to kill off most of their competition. They have Chrome installed on most people's computers and smartphones so they hold tremendous power to dictate the direction of the web, while they keep tracking people through the browser, with a user login, basically cookie-less.

Re:Google’s approach to replacing the cookie is drawing anti... by kergonath on Thursday February 04, 2021 @05:43AM (#26024305)
I thought that was addressed with “They're not going to shoot themselves in the foot without a plan”. I’d bet they would ban 3rd party cookies the microsecond after they made sure they had a proved workaround.
Re:Google’s approach to replacing the cookie is drawing anti... by jefftk on Thursday February 04, 2021 @09:56AM (#26025805)
> Chrome will never: ban 3rd party cookies

"Once these approaches have addressed the needs of users, publishers, and advertisers, and we have developed the tools to mitigate workarounds, we plan to phase out support for third-party cookies in Chrome. Our intention is to do this within two years [from January 2020]." -- https://blog.chromium.org/2020/01/building-more-private-web-...

Want to bet on whether Chrome still supports third-party cookies, say, by the end of 2023?

(Disclosure: I work for Google, speaking only for myself)

Re:Google’s approach to replacing the cookie is drawing anti... by imtringued on Thursday February 04, 2021 @03:33AM (#26023754)
Google can probably track you without cookies if you use Google Chrome. If they remove alternative methods of tracking they end up eliminating competitors.
Re:Google’s approach to replacing the cookie is drawing anti... by mcosta on Thursday February 04, 2021 @05:43AM (#26024306)
> probably

How?

Re:Google’s approach to replacing the cookie is drawing anti... by aembleton on Thursday February 04, 2021 @06:14AM (#26024431)
Chrome could provide an API that gives a GUID for that user, or that user session.
Re:Google’s approach to replacing the cookie is drawing anti... by lmkg on Thursday February 04, 2021 @10:08AM (#26025918)
This exists and is used today in production. The feature is called "Google Signals." It can be used as a replacement for the identity signal (read: cookies) for Google Analytics and Google Ads.
Re:Google’s approach to replacing the cookie is drawing anti... by Yizahi on Thursday February 04, 2021 @05:42AM (#26024300)
Which would be great. Minus one surveillance corporation in the world - the better for humans in general. Then we either split and regulate Google by government if we are lucky, or it stays as a surveillance monopoly, but there will be less surveillance anyway.
Re:Google’s approach to replacing the cookie is drawing anti... by Mauricebranagh on Thursday February 04, 2021 @04:10AM (#26023925)
Cookies / analytics is used for far more than just PPC tracking.