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Re:Google Stadia shuts down internal studios, changing busin... by ljm on Monday February 01, 2021 @04:04PM (#25993930)
Google basically sounds like a large scale startup incubator where every successful project is doomed to fail.
Re:Google Stadia shuts down internal studios, changing busin... by causality0 on Monday February 01, 2021 @04:14PM (#25994047)
There's only two outcomes: Either Google gets bored and kills it because it doesn't generate ten billion dollars a year in profit or it becomes so ingrained in our society killing it might cause an angry mob to attack Google HQ with torches and pitchforks.

Why it can't spin these side projects off into their own companies to survive or die on their own merits I don't know.

Re:Google Stadia shuts down internal studios, changing busin... by aabhay on Monday February 01, 2021 @04:21PM (#25994136)
The second one should read “or it becomes a large scale ad data gathering opportunity”. That’s the value of Maps and Gmail IMO.
Re:Google Stadia shuts down internal studios, changing busin... by chipotle_coyote on Monday February 01, 2021 @04:47PM (#25994457)
You're implicitly painting "become an unqualified mega-success" and "become a large scale data gathering opportunity" as if they were mutually exclusive, but they're not. It's because Maps and Mail are so wildly successful that they're great data gathering opportunities.
Re:Google Stadia shuts down internal studios, changing busin... by StillBored on Monday February 01, 2021 @04:44PM (#25994421)
Wasn't that sort of the point of alphabet? To put these into their own self sustaining "divisions" so they could be spun out easily or at a high level choose to fund them?
Re:Google Stadia shuts down internal studios, changing busin... by ljm on Monday February 01, 2021 @05:36PM (#25995077)
I'm sure Alphabet was really a restructuring to optimise tax returns
Re:Google Stadia shuts down internal studios, changing busin... by alasdair_ on Monday February 01, 2021 @04:48PM (#25994476)
> Why it can't spin these side projects off into their own companies to survive or die on their own merits I don't know.

They do sometimes. Niantic (Pokemon Go) used to be part of Google Maps (well, Geo) and they spun out completely.

Re:Google Stadia shuts down internal studios, changing busin... by fossuser on Monday February 01, 2021 @04:26PM (#25994191)
They do sometimes do that, Loon 'graduated' to become its own company that issued its own shares and has since died.

Waymo is another spin off company.

The structure of Alphabet exists for this purpose.

Re:Google Stadia shuts down internal studios, changing busin... by im3w1l on Monday February 01, 2021 @04:23PM (#25994164)
My guess would be that disentangling a project from all proprietary dependencies is very expensive.
Re:Google Stadia shuts down internal studios, changing busin... by Traster on Monday February 01, 2021 @04:47PM (#25994459)
It's actually a pretty interesting element of Google, their adherence to a centralized infrastructure must make spin offs and acquisitions incredibly difficult.
Re:Google Stadia shuts down internal studios, changing busin... by arthurcolle on Monday February 01, 2021 @05:42PM (#25995132)
Couldn't the spun out company just license the centralized compute infrastructure and subsequently migrate as needed?

Seems easy enough, unless I'm missing something here

Re:Google Stadia shuts down internal studios, changing busin... by jsight on Monday February 01, 2021 @04:23PM (#25994162)
> Why it can't spin these side projects off into their own companies to survive or die on their own merits I don't know.

They would only do that if the spinoff made them a noticeable amount of money. I suspect that is rarely the case.