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Re:Communications Minister touts the opportunities of a Goog... by nness on Monday February 01, 2021 @06:40AM (#25987784)
If we ever needed any proof that Australia's Liberal (conservative) party was a puppet for News Corp, its this law.
Re:Communications Minister touts the opportunities of a Goog... by zensavona on Monday February 01, 2021 @06:59AM (#25987894)
Pretty much this. Although Rupert Murdoch is a worldwide media mafioso, his home territory is Australia and he owns the vast majority of print media here - this proposed action is in his favour and his only. It even by design excludes public broadcasters like ABC and SBS.
Re:Communications Minister touts the opportunities of a Goog... by robin21 on Monday February 01, 2021 @06:58AM (#25987891)
Can you explain?
Re:Communications Minister touts the opportunities of a Goog... by Gatsky on Monday February 01, 2021 @08:33AM (#25988503)
News corp, headed Rupert Murdoch, owns a lot of media in Australia. Most of this media is abjectly shithouse but heavily consumed by people aged 60+. Murdoch wields undue political power because of this, which induces elected politicians to fawn over him. They gave him the order of Australia the other week for example, which seems nonsensical to many actual Australian citizens, to whom he appears to be a rich prick sabotaging the national conversation.

The frankly embarrassing attempt to siphon money from Google into Murdoch’s pockets is simply the current conservative government ensuring they get excellent media coverage at the next election.

If I have to use a VPN to get decent search results because of this nonsense I will NOT be pleased.

Re:Communications Minister touts the opportunities of a Goog... by dazc on Monday February 01, 2021 @09:55AM (#25989160)
'If I have to use a VPN to get decent search results because of this nonsense I will NOT be pleased.'

Good news then because you can use Duck Duck Go and get reasonable results without being stalked around the internet or run the risk of your parents clicking a scam ad because 'it has 5 gold stars beneath it'.

Re:Communications Minister touts the opportunities of a Goog... by Gatsky on Monday February 01, 2021 @04:26PM (#25994195)
Have tried DDG before but wasn't that impressed. Will give it another look.
Re:Communications Minister touts the opportunities of a Goog... by paradox242 on Monday February 01, 2021 @01:42PM (#25991850)
Duck Duck Go uses Bing (and Yahoo, lol) to complete all searches so he's really right back where he started (albeit Microsoft isn't tracking him).
Re:Communications Minister touts the opportunities of a Goog... by robin21 on Monday February 01, 2021 @11:21PM (#25997400)
Murdoch is 90yo this year. I find it hard to believe that he wants to line his pockets. He has more money than he can ever spend.

Google is a worldwide monopoly. No one has any chance of negotiating with them. Even a country as it turns out without them threatening complete pull out.

I see this as strong leadership standing up to monopolies.

I would prefer the free market to sort it out honestly but what chance does anyone have against them.

Re:Communications Minister touts the opportunities of a Goog... by DyslexicAtheist on Monday February 01, 2021 @07:07AM (#25987940)
As somebody who dislikes both the established old media firms of Murdoch & Co, but despises the parasitic Tech surveillance capitalism even more, I welcome this (regressive) attitude. Europeans are fighting for similar reasons which is loss of control of their own media and a takeover by US propaganda and norms by companies who have failed to pay their taxes again and again.

imo it doesn't matter that many of these local outlets are backward, racist and populist rags (never criticizing the Australian concentration camps, or failure of capturing the idiocy of the AAbill, or whatever justifies being outraged about etc), the big guys (FB/Google) are expert in doing the same thing but at scale and with better PR (+ they can do so without paying their taxes).

As long as it hurts BigTech it's the right move no matter what "appears" right or wrong. These firms and their management are parasites and they need to be treated as such until they a) pay their taxes and b) respect local laws.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_immigration_detenti...

Re:Communications Minister touts the opportunities of a Goog... by zhd on Monday February 01, 2021 @07:11AM (#25987971)
Re: takeover by US firms, note that while Murdoch was born Australian he gave up Australian in favor of US citizenship... precisely because it would have been illegal to own such a stake in US media firms as a non- or dual-citizen.

We would also like the Murdoch media and/or tech giants to pay tax in Australia, yes, but neither do at the moment.

Re:Communications Minister touts the opportunities of a Goog... by 908B64B197 on Monday February 01, 2021 @02:09PM (#25992279)
Why does Australia allows such a large percentage of it's medias to be owned by a foreigner?
Re:Communications Minister touts the opportunities of a Goog... by zzedd on Monday February 01, 2021 @02:37PM (#25992671)
because 'the foreigner' controls the media. it's a race condition.
Re:Communications Minister touts the opportunities of a Goog... by 908B64B197 on Monday February 01, 2021 @02:14PM (#25992367)
> Europeans are fighting for similar reasons [...] by companies who have failed to pay their taxes again and again.

I get that it's trendy right now for elected non-technical bureaucrats to whine against tech giants. But if they are really avoiding taxes why not simply... charge them for that? Hint: They can't because all the taxation schemes used by these companies are legal. EU bureaucrats could simply write a tax code that makes them illegal but they won't!

All the whining also distracts peoples from asking themselves why European policies failed to grow a healthy growing tech ecosystem like in the US.

Re:Communications Minister touts the opportunities of a Goog... by robin21 on Monday February 01, 2021 @11:27PM (#25997433)
The fact they threaten to pull out because they are going to make a small decrease in profits speaks volumes of their bullying tactics. It’s clearly a case of: we don’t want to set a precedent in other countries.
Re:Communications Minister touts the opportunities of a Goog... by throwaways885 on Monday February 01, 2021 @09:25AM (#25988926)
'Australian concentration camps'?
Re:Communications Minister touts the opportunities of a Goog... by Clewza313 on Monday February 01, 2021 @10:14AM (#25989323)
Re:Communications Minister touts the opportunities of a Goog... by meditative on Monday February 01, 2021 @09:30AM (#25988968)
I assume they're referring to offshore detention.