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Re:Apple watch keyboard developer put off by app store scammers by mrighele on Monday February 01, 2021 @05:40AM (#25987478)
> App stores can't spend too many hours on each app because there's tons of them,

In this specific case it seems they didn't even spend one minute, since the app is not working. If at Apple they don't have the resource to at least try to open every app (I doubt it, they are swimming in cash), they could at least find a way to decide which apps to test first, like complaints from other developers, reviews telling that the app is a scam etc.

Re:Apple watch keyboard developer put off by app store scammers by valuearb on Monday February 01, 2021 @09:04AM (#25988751)
The app was working, during review. Then once approved its behavior changed and the scam started.

This is trivial to implement and done by many developers.

Re:Apple watch keyboard developer put off by app store scammers by stevehawk on Monday February 01, 2021 @05:38PM (#25995104)
Apple doesn't approve each release of an app?
Re:Apple watch keyboard developer put off by app store scammers by valuearb on Monday February 01, 2021 @10:01PM (#25997009)
They do, but in these cases the binary never changed. A value returned to it from a web API changed, or a date passed, or the users are outside of Cupertino, etc.
Re:Apple watch keyboard developer put off by app store scammers by innagadadavida on Tuesday February 02, 2021 @11:55AM (#26003361)
Are there any automated approaches to solve this type of bait and switch?
Re:Apple watch keyboard developer put off by app store scammers by shinycode on Monday February 01, 2021 @06:58AM (#25987890)
When I first published my app, they asked for a video of video fully working. Then once I had a bug and they sent me a video of it with the steps to the bug. So there are definitely people opening and testing apps
Re:Apple watch keyboard developer put off by app store scammers by phreack on Monday February 01, 2021 @07:19AM (#25988009)
Yeah, same here, the only explanation I can think of is that the scammers have someone on the inside approving these fake apps.
Re:Apple watch keyboard developer put off by app store scammers by valuearb on Monday February 01, 2021 @09:05AM (#25988760)
No, the reviewers never see the scam screens. Once approved the scammers change a setting in the cloud and the app starts opening in scam mode.
Re:Apple watch keyboard developer put off by app store scammers by sireat on Monday February 01, 2021 @02:57PM (#25992930)
If the app is working properly during review, why change it to nonworking later on?

It is like that Key and Peele skit about robbing a bank by working there.

If you can create a working app why not leave it as is ?

Re:Apple watch keyboard developer put off by app store scammers by valuearb on Monday February 01, 2021 @03:29PM (#25993420)
It was likely a very poor keyboard. Just operating well enough to pass review. Once a user saw it, no one is buying.
Re:Apple watch keyboard developer put off by app store scammers by tmp538394722 on Monday February 01, 2021 @08:06AM (#25988284)
The more boring reason: some review employees are bad at their job
Re:Apple watch keyboard developer put off by app store scammers by ascagnel_ on Monday February 01, 2021 @09:31AM (#25988980)
Given the up-and-down, seemingly always controversial (and sometimes adversarial nature) of how Apple performs their app reviews and enforces their rules, I think it's 50% on lazy/bad reviewers and 50% poorly-communicated rules and regulations.
Re:Apple watch keyboard developer put off by app store scammers by danmur on Monday February 01, 2021 @08:46AM (#25988605)
I wonder if there are a load of failed submissions too. They'd want to minimise effort so I guess they'd have good ways to quickly rebranding an app as a new one.
Re:Apple watch keyboard developer put off by app store scammers by ndiddy on Monday February 01, 2021 @09:05AM (#25988757)
Or the app talks to a remote server so it works normally during the review period, but after the app gets approved the author changes a flag on the server and the app changes to "scam mode".
Re:Apple watch keyboard developer put off by app store scammers by ballenf on Monday February 01, 2021 @11:04AM (#25989818)
And this is another example of why Apple is too focused on short-term profit over long-term user experience. I think we all know that the app reviewer's top priority is making sure the monetization strategies in the app are "compliant".

Whether it works or not probably won't get you fired as an app reviewer. But miss some IAP workaround that an app is using and I'd bet it could be your job.

Re:Apple watch keyboard developer put off by app store scammers by ninth_ant on Monday February 01, 2021 @12:05PM (#25990510)
You’re exactly correct and is why Apple should be taking action on this problem — it’s in their long-term self interest to do so.

Having customers distrust their App Store is really bad for them in the long run, and would be a competitive advantage over Google if their store was less crammed with garbage.

As it stands now, I usually find apps by looking for solid reviews outside of the App Store app, and am very wary about purchasing anything.