TeaVM: Build Fast, Modern Web Apps in Java

Re:TeaVM: Build Fast, Modern Web Apps in Java by skizm on Sunday January 31, 2021 @10:23AM (#25979444)

Every seems to be being snarky, but on the off chance you care about the actual pricing, and assuming you're talking about Oracle's JDK and not OpenJDK: Oracle's JDK is free to use. You can pay for support if you want, which gives you the bleeding edge security patches immediately (without support you can upgrade every six months to get the all patches). The pricing for support is calculated by CPU core count I believe. So if you're using Java in production on 100 cores, that's going to be more expensive than 10. I don't have the specific numbers off the top of my head though.

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Re:TeaVM: Build Fast, Modern Web Apps in Java by andylynch on Sunday January 31, 2021 @03:29PM (#25982264)

It's worth pointing out that with Oracle's new Java licensing model whether something is free on charge depends on a number of things including how Oracle thinks it's being deployed.

The Oracle JDK is indeed free of charge for developing aplications, but running that app using Oracle Java on a server as opposed to a desktop needs a paid license subscription & generates exposure to Oracle license audits.

Many, many firms are now using OpenJDK and the like, and have policies against even downloading Oracle's version.

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Re:TeaVM: Build Fast, Modern Web Apps in Java by svrma on Sunday January 31, 2021 @11:22AM (#25979876)

I was not trying be to snarky. I was genuinely curious to know how it is priced after the oracle acquisition. As a language that I am most used to, I wanted to evaluate how much it'd cost (a rough estimate based on cores/users) if I were to launch a web service based on Java.

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Re:TeaVM: Build Fast, Modern Web Apps in Java by ternaryoperator on Sunday January 31, 2021 @04:16PM (#25982645)

OpenJDK is Oracle's free, open-source implementation of the Oracle JDK. It is where Oracle does all of its JDK development. You can use it with no restrictions. If you want to pay for support, you can pay Oracle or any of several other companies that package up and support the OpenJDK. If you choose to pay Oracle, you'll get the Oracle JDK which is identical to the OpenJDK except for a couple of error messages and the ID string.

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Re:TeaVM: Build Fast, Modern Web Apps in Java by andylynch on Sunday January 31, 2021 @03:36PM (#25982323)

Oracle actually publish their price list for Oracle Java here - https://www.oracle.com/uk/corporate/pricing/#java-se

In short, starts at $25 per processor per month, discounts starting at 100+ . Look at using OpenJDK/ Amazon Corretto instead

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Re:TeaVM: Build Fast, Modern Web Apps in Java by JAlexoid on Sunday January 31, 2021 @01:08PM (#25980972)

Since Java is free to use and is primarily developed as a GPL software - there are no licensing costs, that you would care about.

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Re:TeaVM: Build Fast, Modern Web Apps in Java by andylynch on Sunday January 31, 2021 @03:39PM (#25982353)

Not if you want to use Oracle's JVM to run something on anything but a laptop or desktop. They will absolutely want you to pay for that and will make sure you do.

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Re:TeaVM: Build Fast, Modern Web Apps in Java by kaba0 on Sunday January 31, 2021 @06:14PM (#25983579)

But Oracle’s JVM is the exact same as the OpenJDK in terms of functionality - just to clarify it.

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