Re:Class Action Lawsuit Filed Against Robinhood
by silexia on Thursday January 28, 2021 @05:40PM
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https://www.sec.gov/investor/pubs/regsho.htm. Control plus F "short squeeze". Intentional short squeezes like what is happening in GME is illegal.
Re:Class Action Lawsuit Filed Against Robinhood
by alex_c on Thursday January 28, 2021 @05:57PM
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Thank you, I’ve been reading about this all day but this is the first time I see this referenced.
I guess the billion dollar question is, legally: does buying stocks in anticipation of a short squeeze, and communicating the same to others, count as manipulation?
Re:Class Action Lawsuit Filed Against Robinhood
by d1sxeyes on Thursday January 28, 2021 @06:04PM
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> a scheme to manipulate the price or availability of stock in order to cause a short squeeze is illegal.
The question I think would rotate around whether this is 'a scheme to manipulate', or simply identifying an opportunity to capitalise on Melvin's greedy position.
Re:Class Action Lawsuit Filed Against Robinhood
by unityByFreedom on Thursday January 28, 2021 @07:17PM
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> capitalise on Melvin's greedy position
Oh please. As if whoever has their thumb on the social media scale isn't greedy. Greed runs the street in longs and shorts. You can invest modestly by diversifying and avoid all that.
Re:Class Action Lawsuit Filed Against Robinhood
by d1sxeyes on Friday January 29, 2021 @03:45AM
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Of course. But the point I'm making is that in my opinion, the demand is being generated by Melvin themselves by having a position with so much risk, it's not artificial demand.
Re:Class Action Lawsuit Filed Against Robinhood
by Tokelin on Thursday January 28, 2021 @05:47PM
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Intentional would be the key word. Would it be easy to prove it was intentional?
Re:Class Action Lawsuit Filed Against Robinhood
by simias on Thursday January 28, 2021 @05:59PM
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I don't know enough about this subject to form an opinion on the legality and morality of what's hapenning right now but if the only rub is whether the squeeze is intentional or not I recommend that you have a peek at the wallstreetbets subreddit right now. It's very much intentional and out in the open.
Re:Class Action Lawsuit Filed Against Robinhood
by xmodem on Thursday January 28, 2021 @05:59PM
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very interesting link, thank you. The exact language is
> Although some short squeezes may occur naturally in the market, a scheme to manipulate the price or availability of stock in order to cause a short squeeze is illegal.
Re:Class Action Lawsuit Filed Against Robinhood
by scythe on Thursday January 28, 2021 @06:18PM
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It seems like the key question is what qualifies as a scheme. To me, it seems like you need some kind of secrecy or deception.
Also, can you use Clojure to cause a short squeeze, or... [ducks]
Re:Class Action Lawsuit Filed Against Robinhood
by sudosysgen on Thursday January 28, 2021 @06:54PM
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Indeed. It was all done out in the open. Someone said "if enough people buy and hold, there will be a short squeeze. For this reason, I'm long GME", which probably doesn't represent a scheme or manipulation, it's just simple facts.
Re:Class Action Lawsuit Filed Against Robinhood
by stransky on Thursday January 28, 2021 @05:55PM
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The article doesn’t explain why it’s illegal.
Re:Class Action Lawsuit Filed Against Robinhood
by noitpmeder on Thursday January 28, 2021 @06:07PM
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It doesn't need to?
Shorts got greedy and got caught out. Should short sellers not have any downside to their trades?