Re:Protocols, Not Platforms: A Technological Approach to Fre...
by lallysingh on Thursday January 28, 2021 @02:04PM
(#25947196)
Well there was the attempt at violent overthrow of a government... That's one difference.
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Re:Protocols, Not Platforms: A Technological Approach to Fre...
by throwaway894345 on Thursday January 28, 2021 @02:35PM
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Personally I think it's a security problem that Pillow Man's LARPer mob constituted a credible threat to our National Security. This doesn't seem like cause to restrict speech. (Of course, Twitter is technically a private platform, but it's also the de facto public square as I discussed elsewhere in this thread, and the property we ought to care about is that free speech is protected in the public square).
Re:Protocols, Not Platforms: A Technological Approach to Fre...
by lallysingh on Thursday January 28, 2021 @03:36PM
(#25948759)
I think the Free Speech problem is really a problem of automatic amplification by platforms that have motivations sometimes opposed to the well-being of the speakers or listenrrs.
Re:Protocols, Not Platforms: A Technological Approach to Fre...
by throwaway894345 on Thursday January 28, 2021 @03:58PM
(#25949098)
Maybe, but even then the "free speech problem" should never have become a "national security problem". National security aside, free speech works pretty well when the public square isn't privatized by a handful of entities with the same general business model (using outrage to sell ads), which is perhaps your very point.
Re:Protocols, Not Platforms: A Technological Approach to Fre...
by fareesh on Thursday January 28, 2021 @02:50PM
(#25947970)
Seemed like one of the poorest attempts I have ever seen, is it really being treated as a serious one?
Re:Protocols, Not Platforms: A Technological Approach to Fre...
by splistud on Friday January 29, 2021 @03:50PM
(#25962330)
I suppose when you want to smear half of the population you use what you got
Re:Protocols, Not Platforms: A Technological Approach to Fre...
by lallysingh on Thursday January 28, 2021 @03:34PM
(#25948713)
The defenses were so poor it was a coin flip whether it would succeed.
Re:Protocols, Not Platforms: A Technological Approach to Fre...
by konjin on Thursday January 28, 2021 @04:08PM
(#25949217)
What would success have looked like? Stealing the original copy of the constitution and using whiteout to change the bits they didn't like?
Re:Protocols, Not Platforms: A Technological Approach to Fre...
by kibwen on Thursday January 28, 2021 @04:45PM
(#25949761)
Success for them would have looked like apprehending the legislature and coercing them into throwing out the votes of states that didn't go to Trump. And this is charitably assuming that their chants of "hang Mike Pence", along with the gallows they erected out front, might have only been for show.
Re:Protocols, Not Platforms: A Technological Approach to Fre...
by konjin on Thursday January 28, 2021 @04:50PM
(#25949828)
My version of editing the constitution is vastly more likely to happen than whatever fever dream this is.
Re:Protocols, Not Platforms: A Technological Approach to Fre...
by kibwen on Thursday January 28, 2021 @05:05PM
(#25950071)
Perhaps you're so naive that you think that a murderous mob successfully overthrowing an elected government is unprecedented in US history? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilmington_insurrection_of_189...
Re:Protocols, Not Platforms: A Technological Approach to Fre...
by konjin on Thursday January 28, 2021 @05:18PM
(#25950225)
Ah yes, Wilmington NC 1890, the place I go to when I need to imagine what could possibly happen in DC not 130 years later.
Re:Protocols, Not Platforms: A Technological Approach to Fre...
by kibwen on Thursday January 28, 2021 @05:23PM
(#25950298)
If oblivious sarcasm is your only recourse for when you have nothing left to contribute to an argument, then I accept your concession.
Re:Protocols, Not Platforms: A Technological Approach to Fre...
by konjin on Thursday January 28, 2021 @05:43PM
(#25950577)
Yelling at the top of your lungs that cosplayers are a real danger to the biggest superpower on the planet makes you either dishonest or insane.
Either of those precludes a good faith argument.