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Re:U.S. Suffers Sharpest Rise in Poverty Rate in More Than 5... by dragonwriter on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @01:31PM (#25931922)
> I don't know why we always go back to income inequality

Because it's pretty well established that outside of the most abject poverty, relative deprivation is a more significant factor driving experienced disutility than absolute material condition, contrary to the naive assumptions many people make that increasing individual absolute material condition increases individual utility independent of external context.

There are, of course, people who don't believe it works that way, people who don't want it to work that way, and people who don't want other people to believe it works that way because such belief threatens their own advantaged position.

Re:U.S. Suffers Sharpest Rise in Poverty Rate in More Than 5... by d1zzy on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @01:58PM (#25932289)
That reads as an argument but my lack of English skills makes it hard to understand what exactly are you saying.

However, it does seem to me that that you still haven't addressed one of the main points you're responding to, that we can have perfect equality where everyone lives as the average person below poverty line today. Would that be a better society considering your arguments?

Re:U.S. Suffers Sharpest Rise in Poverty Rate in More Than 5... by dragonwriter on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @02:42PM (#25932916)
> we can have perfect equality where everyone lives as the average person below poverty line today

Well, no, we probably can't. Inequality can be mitigated, but it can’t be eliminated, especially durably.

> Would that be a better society considering your arguments?

That's really an objectively unanswerable question for many reasons. You can't really measure, on more than an ordinal scale, individual utility, or aggregate it, except by interposing non-objective judgements. Would it be better for lots of people currently above the poverty line? Maybe, depends how far below the poverty line the equal society was.

Re:U.S. Suffers Sharpest Rise in Poverty Rate in More Than 5... by vorpalhex on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @02:05PM (#25932376)
I'm a college educated native speaker who reads medical research in my free time and I can't understand what the parent was saying.
Re:U.S. Suffers Sharpest Rise in Poverty Rate in More Than 5... by db579 on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @02:33PM (#25932780)
Arguably yes. I'm not saying it's necessarily the world I would want to live in but I suspect the world's aggregate perceived level of happiness may be higher.
Re:U.S. Suffers Sharpest Rise in Poverty Rate in More Than 5... by roenxi on Wednesday January 27, 2021 @03:45PM (#25933685)
> ... relative deprivation is a more significant factor driving experienced disutility than absolute material condition ...

Which data are you talking about? Because on the one hand, yes. On the other hand most of the data I'm aware of is very context- (especially social-situation-) specific. I don't think there is evidence that the simple existence somewhere out there of very wealthy people is upsetting.