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Re:Vancouver seaplane company to resume test flights with el... by tastyfreeze on Monday January 25, 2021 @12:26PM (#25905962)
I worked on a seaplane dock as a teen. Radial engines use AvGas which is high octane gasoline. Turbine engines use Jet A which is a kerosene blend fuel.

Most de Havilland Beavers in my area are still radial engines due to the nostalgia that sells to tourists. Most companies have converted their de Havilland Otters to a turbine engine. I have seen turbine Beavers from other areas. You can visually identify the engine by the shape of the plane nose. A radial engine plane has a big, round, blunt nose and sounds like an idling drag racer with a deep glug glug glug noise. A turbine engine plane has a pointy nose and sounds like the high pitch whine of a jet engine.

Re:Vancouver seaplane company to resume test flights with el... by steffan on Monday January 25, 2021 @01:10PM (#25906541)
> still radial engines due to the nostalgia that sells to tourists

Given the relatively thin margins in aviation, I think it's probably less about nostalgia and more about the $1M USD price of e.g. a PT-6 turbine

Re:Vancouver seaplane company to resume test flights with el... by tastyfreeze on Monday January 25, 2021 @01:31PM (#25906799)
I am sure that is a consideration. The performance of a turbine Beaver is also not as much of an improvement as a converted Otter.

Margins on transportation flights are thin. Margins on flightseeing are not. The company I worked for chartered a Beaver between $600-$700 an hour and a turbine Otter at double that. Seats for 45-minute flightseeing (through a national monument) were priced at $185-$250. 6 pax in an Beaver and 10 in an Otter.

Re:Vancouver seaplane company to resume test flights with el... by canadianfella on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @02:11AM (#25913338)
Pax?
Re:Vancouver seaplane company to resume test flights with el... by Sebguer on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @03:13AM (#25913596)
Passengers.
Re:Vancouver seaplane company to resume test flights with el... by baybal2 on Monday January 25, 2021 @02:05PM (#25907242)
There are no avia piston engines left above 500-600HP today, and 1000+hp are completely unheard off.

This is why a lot of radial engine powered planes that are many decades old have no options for new engines if there are no turbine conversion available.

Re:Vancouver seaplane company to resume test flights with el... by na85 on Monday January 25, 2021 @03:49PM (#25908636)
I had a professor in school that hated turbines. You press a button, it whines, and with a small puff it starts.

A radial looks, sounds, smells dangerous, like it's going to fly apart at any second, and that's awesome. Every so often some old warbirds fly over my neighbourhood and it's such a treat to hear those big radials thundering away. They should prescribe that sound as antidepressants.

Re:Vancouver seaplane company to resume test flights with el... by jacquesm on Monday January 25, 2021 @06:05PM (#25910179)
This happened here last liberation remembrance day. Four planes in formation, it was like the voice of God, incredible what a sound. I didn't realize what it was at first so it scared the willies out of me and then I saw the silhouettes and immediately knew what was up. You just can't describe the sound of those engines 300 meters up right over your office.

Originally there was supposed to a 4 engined Lancaster as well but it wasn't deemed airworthy so that got postponed, even so, it was mighty impressive.

Re:Vancouver seaplane company to resume test flights with el... by na85 on Monday January 25, 2021 @06:25PM (#25910374)
I used to live in Ontario near where the only airworthy Lancaster lives. It's based out of Hamilton, and the Lanc is powered by inclines rather than radials but still an awesome sound. I got to ride in it once, it was a lifetime experience.
Re:Vancouver seaplane company to resume test flights with el... by jacquesm on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @04:52AM (#25914081)
Even if you know what's coming...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iOoiEbtf2w

Re:Vancouver seaplane company to resume test flights with el... by SV_BubbleTime on Monday January 25, 2021 @01:32PM (#25906817)
>Turbine engines use Jet A which is a kerosene blend fuel.

I’m always amazed how people don’t know this and think “jet fuel” is some magic stuff.

I’m missing steps, but I think it’s pretty much:

oil >> tanker fuel >> diesel >> kerosene >> jet fuel

Re:Vancouver seaplane company to resume test flights with el... by throwawayboise on Monday January 25, 2021 @06:15PM (#25910270)
Yes, and diesel, kerosene, home heating oil, and jet fuel are all very close to the same thing. Different purity standards and additives of course.
Re:Vancouver seaplane company to resume test flights with el... by nickik on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @11:21AM (#25917592)
oil >> tanker fuel >> diesel >> kerosene >> jet fuel >> RP1 (rocket fuel)
Re:Vancouver seaplane company to resume test flights with el... by MaxBarraclough on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @07:38AM (#25915134)
> Radial engines use AvGas which is high octane gasoline

With lead.