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Re:SoftBank’s plan to sell Arm to Nvidia is hitting antitrus... by amelius on Sunday January 24, 2021 @07:47AM (#25891591)
My understanding was that Apple already reimplemented large parts of the IP and that they are now mostly a licensee of the ISA.
Re:SoftBank’s plan to sell Arm to Nvidia is hitting antitrus... by vinay_ys on Sunday January 24, 2021 @08:13AM (#25891756)
Apple's ISA can become more and more divergent from Arm and it wouldn't matter. Apple controls the entire software stack that runs on their hardware.
Re:SoftBank’s plan to sell Arm to Nvidia is hitting antitrus... by amelius on Sunday January 24, 2021 @08:21AM (#25891800)
I think Apple is bound by contract to respect the original ISA (except perhaps the parts they use internally and don't expose external developers to). Forcing external parties to use a translator instead of machine language directly could be one approach to circumvent this.
Re:SoftBank’s plan to sell Arm to Nvidia is hitting antitrus... by thewindowmovie5 on Sunday January 24, 2021 @12:33PM (#25893847)
Also, is not the whole value in using Arm ISA, the ecosystem behind it? If Apple starts diverging from the standard, then it cannot benefit from the existing ecosystem and neither can a software dev say develop on Mac and deploy to graviton. I think it is big lose lose if Apple diverges from standard.
Re:SoftBank’s plan to sell Arm to Nvidia is hitting antitrus... by floatboth on Sunday January 24, 2021 @01:05PM (#25894135)
Apple never used any 64-bit cores from Arm. Their own Cyclone was developed in parallel with Arm's Cortex-A57.