For some syntactical sugar, like print-function, sure. But there are more fundamental changes that couldn’t be papered over.
Re:Pip has dropped support for Python 2
by jamiesonbecker on Sunday January 24, 2021 @10:13AM
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Fundamental changes shouldn't have been papered over by calling the new language Python, as it was a fundamentally different language at that point.
No, it’s the same language but with different semantics around a specific type. That’s not a different language and code can co-exist with a bit of thought.
Re:Pip has dropped support for Python 2
by JasonFruit on Sunday January 24, 2021 @10:54AM
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Every language goes through this at some point in its development: flaws that limit future development have to be fixed. Should every language rename itself and split its community at that point? That seems like an extreme response to a common problem.
Re:Pip has dropped support for Python 2
by Chris2048 on Sunday January 24, 2021 @11:31AM
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> Should every language rename itself and split its community at that point?
yes. If breaking, fundamental changes are common, that's a problem.
Re:Pip has dropped support for Python 2
by JasonFruit on Sunday January 24, 2021 @05:15PM
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That people can make an initial plan that is self-consistent, logical, and foresees and provides for all future use-cases is a basic tenet of waterfall-style development. The history of software engineering does not uphold that principle. Why would it be different for language designers?
Re:Pip has dropped support for Python 2
by Chris2048 on Sunday January 24, 2021 @06:00PM
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Just because an unforeseen issue arises, doesn't mean you need to introduce a breaking change right away.
The "new language" is called Python 3.
Re:Pip has dropped support for Python 2
by a1369209993 on Tuesday January 26, 2021 @08:52PM
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Yes, yes it is. And, like "Perl 6" and to a lesser extent "C++", that name is misleading (and therefore bad), because there is already a different language called "Python" (respectively "Perl", "C"), with significant superficial similarities that it could be confused with.
Please note that the misleading part of Perl 6 has been fixed by renaming it to the Raku Programming Language (https://raku.org using the #rakulang tag on social media).
Perl5 has similar flags ("use strict"), and Racket brings it even further to define the whole fucking language of the rest of the file ("#lang racket/gui"). Having the language being choosable by the user is against the "zen of python", I guess. In other words: Such an attemp does not feel "pythonic".