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Re:Judge refuses to reinstate Parler after Amazon shut it down by duskwuff on Thursday January 21, 2021 @05:01PM (#25865010)
> he was saying that their tech rep at Amazon gave no hints that they were in danger of being shut down

And I wouldn't expect them to do so! They're a tech rep, not a legal rep.

Re:Judge refuses to reinstate Parler after Amazon shut it down by echelon on Thursday January 21, 2021 @05:04PM (#25865046)
So deplatforming by surprise is okay?

Facebook and Twitter don't own their data centers. If the DCs responded to the same pressure about hosting illegal content, the social media giants would disappear too.

Edit: the downvotes and rate limits are about to push me away from HN for good. This is ridiculous.

My platform is anti-fascism. I'm tired of people on both sides trying to shut down the other side.

Re:Judge refuses to reinstate Parler after Amazon shut it down by duskwuff on Thursday January 21, 2021 @05:16PM (#25865200)
No, literally all I'm saying is that a technical support liason at AWS is not going to be in a position to discuss legal issues regarding the customer's account. It's not their job. If AWS operates similarly to most other companies I've worked with, technical support staff are strictly forbidden from discussing legal issues -- that's the responsibility of the legal department.
Re:Judge refuses to reinstate Parler after Amazon shut it down by ceejayoz on Thursday January 21, 2021 @05:09PM (#25865112)
> Facebook and Twitter don't own their data centers.

Facebook certainly owns quite a few.

https://www.facebook.com/careers/life/facebook-infrastructur...

They lease some, but some are definitely custom built just for them:

https://www.datacenterknowledge.com/facebook/facebook-plans-...

Re:Judge refuses to reinstate Parler after Amazon shut it down by takeda on Thursday January 21, 2021 @05:28PM (#25865361)
> Facebook and Twitter don't own their data centers. If the DCs responded to the same pressure about hosting illegal content, the social media giants would disappear too.

Not true, they do have own data centers.

Re:Judge refuses to reinstate Parler after Amazon shut it down by stale2002 on Friday January 22, 2021 @02:46AM (#25869416)
Alright, well I will fix the original claim.

Imagine if the power company, that provides the electricity for those data centers decided to stop working with them, tommorow.

Surely, you could recognize the issues with doing this? (Lets ignore common carrier laws for a moment, because it is not relevant to the main thrust of the argument, which is that this would be bad)

Re:Judge refuses to reinstate Parler after Amazon shut it down by Melting_Harps on Thursday January 21, 2021 @07:14PM (#25866568)
> Not true, they do have own data centers.

Which further underscores the perils of architecture built around a central point of failure once more, so far from what I've heard about Parler makes me think it was a den of mainly boomer aged crack-pot Qanon and Trump supporters.

In a way its a lot like 8chan, which also got censored after the last racist shooting, Hotwheels outright condemned this and went on record from the Philippines where he lives now and said he wished he didn't create the thing as the worst things he could ever imagined came out of there in masse, but he had no choice as a person living the US with a disability and no access to medical care and limited employment opportunities.

With that said, I'm indifferent to Qanon BS, and the latest storming of the Capitol underscores how pervasive the cancer that is social media is in deteriorating the social fabric in the US for so many (mainly disenfranchised, and poorly educated people) which makes me want to blame you FAANG types even more. I'm sure Russia and China have a hand in all of this, but that is to be expected after how the US intelligence agencies have weaponized every technology for nearly the entire last century around the World.

But in the end, people have agency and the choice to not use your algo optimized survielence based apps/platforms and fall trap to these abysmal outcomes. And the truth is so many of you people default to the 'If I didn't do it, someone else would' rationalization.

And as I've come to learn in my time in tech, especially in my (limited) time in Silicon Valley, many of you are immigrants on employer sponsored Visas or 1st generation migrants with family back home who need the money to survive, so I can't hate you as a person if that's your situation. I just want to clarify that I hate the system you operate with a passion because it lures you in with the delusion of prestige tied with bloated salaries for focusing your attention on the most pointless, and in modern times clearly dangerous, use of your collective talents and skills at these places when we have so many more real problems to solve.

What I can say is I just sincerely wish you do something worth redeeming you as a Human being as a side project.

Re:Judge refuses to reinstate Parler after Amazon shut it down by user-the-name on Friday January 22, 2021 @05:41AM (#25870435)
You're not anti-fascist if you're sitting here trying to defend the fascists.
Re:Judge refuses to reinstate Parler after Amazon shut it down by fl0wenol on Friday January 22, 2021 @02:57PM (#25875598)
> So deplatforming by surprise is okay?

Yes. Abuse and copyright violation doesn't get a pass, so why should extremism?

You take calculated risks in these industries when you're using a service provider. Depends on your goals. Sucks to suck.

Re:Judge refuses to reinstate Parler after Amazon shut it down by invisible on Friday January 22, 2021 @01:57AM (#25869173)
This tired argument that Parler is an innocent victim of censorship is so invalid (by so much data) that it seems like a false flag. The moderation of Parler was designed to tailor to one viewpoint: Trumpism. It was an engineering echo chamber for a narrow set of ideologies and naked hate.
Re:Judge refuses to reinstate Parler after Amazon shut it down by colinmhayes on Friday January 22, 2021 @12:02AM (#25868501)
bye
Re:Judge refuses to reinstate Parler after Amazon shut it down by echelon on Friday January 22, 2021 @12:12AM (#25868550)
adios