Why do we assume extraterrestrials might want to visit us?

Re:Why do we assume extraterrestrials might want to visit us? by ruined on Thursday January 21, 2021 @09:35AM (#25859192)

and not only this, even among classified species, most colonies will never interact directly with a human. when ants do come into contact with things we have made, they do not comprehend it. and when they interact with us directly, even in a mode where we are identifiable to them as an entity, they can't identify much about us beyond the practical facts that we are dangerous or perhaps edible.

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Re:Why do we assume extraterrestrials might want to visit us? by patcon on Thursday January 21, 2021 @09:55AM (#25859418)

And further, to the extent that we might say "a lot of ants experience people now", it's perhaps more a function of us being way overextended beyond the sustainable carrying capacity of our system.

In a world where humans somehow kept themselves from risking their own existence through limitless growth (which I'm assuming wiser intelligences would navigate better), the vast majority of ants colonies would never have any human take notice of them through their whole existence.

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Re:Why do we assume extraterrestrials might want to visit us? by mcbits on Thursday January 21, 2021 @10:25AM (#25859784)

Even as we expand our presence and every random ant has a better and better chance of encountering some kind of evidence of human existence, it still has to know how to evaluate what it's seeing.

An ant finds a peanut. Being a smart ant, it recognizes that something is strange about this peanut. It appears to be roasted. After thinking for a while, it develops a theory to explain how lightning can ignite fires capable of roasting peanuts. Simple and obvious explanation in hand, no further inquiry or speculation about the existence of "advanced peanut roasting technology" is needed.

I mean, why would supposedly advanced creatures intentionally reduce the nutritional quality of the peanut by roasting it, anyway? Yes, definitely lightning.

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Re:Why do we assume extraterrestrials might want to visit us? by smelter on Thursday January 21, 2021 @09:57AM (#25859440)

To an ant, I am a mountain/ thunderstorm/earthquake/quasar.

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Re:Why do we assume extraterrestrials might want to visit us? by behnamoh on Thursday January 21, 2021 @10:16AM (#25859665)

Chances are ETs have transformed into a physical form that is undistinguishable from, say, planets, energy, even stars. After all, the ultimate level of technology design and sophistication is when it is not distinguishable from its surroundings.

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Re:Why do we assume extraterrestrials might want to visit us? by smelter on Thursday January 21, 2021 @10:55AM (#25860178)

Agreed - we do not even possess the instruments to define the nature of dark matter, and it is only by inference that we can suppose it exists.

It is amazing that Fermi, Einstein, et al were able to predict what they did without readily available modern computing hardware and search engines.

Some things are out of the realm of our perception.

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