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Re:I no longer trust The Great Suspender by kazinator on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @03:56PM (#25851880)
No, it isn't a music venue without musicians.

But the implied flow of money doesn't follow from that.

Suppose I own an empty space with a little stage, a PA sound system, and some 100 chairs. I put a down payment on this place, paid for equipment and upgrades and have to pay property taxes, utilities and mortgage. If nothing happens there, I lose money out of my own pocket. I intend for it to be a music venue. I meet the definition of a music venue owner.

Some musicians have contacted me and would like to have a concert there.

Should anyone pay anyone? Who should pay whom?

How is this for logic: "A house isn't a home without a family! If you want me to move into this house with my wife and three kids to make it a home, you're gonna have to pay me!"

Re:I no longer trust The Great Suspender by worik on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @06:59PM (#25853548)
It depends.

For many musicians it is not a career, but a hobby. A outlet for creativity. (That is me) In which case we choose venues that are like us. Our most recent gig was at our local Musicians Club https://youtu.be/URwzKL8pjQo?t=819

For others it is a important part of their income, so they should be paid.

Who should pay? If the punters pay a door charge the band should get it (that is the tradition here) if not then, yes, the owner of the venue pays it.

Re:I no longer trust The Great Suspender by kazinator on Thursday January 21, 2021 @05:02AM (#25857265)
Musicians making an income simply have to avoid opportunities that they have outgrown: free jam spaces, open mics, and whatnot.
Re:I no longer trust The Great Suspender by worik on Thursday January 21, 2021 @03:36PM (#25863897)
Generally speaking musicians are the last to get paid and the first to blame.