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Re:Vertical farms grow veggies on site at restaurants and gr... by adamnemecek on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @03:08PM (#25851285)
I mean so is all new tech. Over time the price will go down and be affordable by more people.
Re:Vertical farms grow veggies on site at restaurants and gr... by stretchcat on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @03:18PM (#25851408)
Why would the price of food from a 'vertical farm' (shipping container in a parking lot) go down relative to the price food from regular farms? Even if it made sense to grow using LEDs instead of direct sunlight, that could be done on rural land instead of urban parking lots. I don't think you'll ever get enough food grown in shipping containers in urban parking lots to be anything other than a curiosity for the wealthy.

These things are small by garden standards, let alone farm standards. How many people could one of these shipping containers keep fed? How many shipping containers would you need to feed a city of a million people?

Re:Vertical farms grow veggies on site at restaurants and gr... by pydry on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @03:51PM (#25851825)
The same way any new tech goes down in price - commoditization, automation and economies of scale.

It's unlikely they'll feed a million people all the food they'll need but it's likely they could feed a million people all of the leafy greens they need.

Re:Vertical farms grow veggies on site at restaurants and gr... by stretchcat on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @03:56PM (#25851877)
"commoditization, automation and economies of scale."

Traditional farms have the clear and overwhelming advantage in all three of these. And they aren't standing still either, they benefit from the advance of technology too.

Re:Vertical farms grow veggies on site at restaurants and gr... by pydry on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @06:03PM (#25853102)
The major advantage this has is that it shrinks the supply chain. Transporting fresh leafy greens is a bit of a nightmare because they go bad so quickly.

I don't expect these things to compete with a farm growing potatoes for a long while or even anything which keeps well enough in a fridge.

Re:Vertical farms grow veggies on site at restaurants and gr... by inglor_cz on Thursday January 21, 2021 @03:18AM (#25856667)
Depends where you live. US has a lot of high-quality natural soil. Places like Israel and Saudi Arabia are much more limited by nature.
Re:Vertical farms grow veggies on site at restaurants and gr... by Funes- on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @04:48PM (#25852440)
>How many shipping containers would you need to feed a city of a million people?

I guess the aspiration for the people behind this kind of vertical farming companies is to have as many containers out there as possible. It seems like proximity of supply is one of their main purported selling points. It makes sense from their standpoint.

Re:Vertical farms grow veggies on site at restaurants and gr... by airstrike on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @03:20PM (#25851436)
Shipping costs virtually zero
Re:Vertical farms grow veggies on site at restaurants and gr... by stretchcat on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @03:23PM (#25851479)
A single truck can ship more food in one trip than one of these containers could produce in a year.
Re:Vertical farms grow veggies on site at restaurants and gr... by monadic3 on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @03:16PM (#25851384)
In this case it seems directly proportional to the cost of energy, barring a solution where you use passive ways (like mirrors) to redirect light into the building.
Re:Vertical farms grow veggies on site at restaurants and gr... by busterarm on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @03:25PM (#25851507)
The sun delivers several orders of magnitude more energy and is free...