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Re:Linux Running on Apple M1 by meibo on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @11:11AM (#25848125)
Even on old + modern thinkpads it feels like a lottery which hardware feature will stop working at a particular time, with the distros i've worked myself through.

Ethernet, waking up from sleep mode, brightness adjustment... take your pick.

Re:Linux Running on Apple M1 by titzer on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @11:14AM (#25848164)
I discovered last week, to my chagrin, that the RAM on my x1 carbon Stinkpad was starting to fail--memtest x86+ confirmed it. Memory corruption is insidious, so I rushed to the internet to buy new DIMMs, opened the sucker up...and there's no DIMM. The RAM is just soldered into the motherboard. No upgrade, no fix. This is now a pile of unreliable junk that randomly flips bits in memory. So data evac commences, with MD5 hashes and double, trip-checking everything.

A reminder that not only software bitrots, but hardware too. Make sure not to buy a Stinkpad (or any hardware) with non-replaceable parts!

(and I just bought an M1 Macbook Pro...)

Re:Linux Running on Apple M1 by swiley on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @11:31AM (#25848384)
Buying a mac after complaining about how you can't replace ram seems a bit odd.
Re:Linux Running on Apple M1 by oblio on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @12:29PM (#25849161)
Feelings, not reason, probably applied there. At least it the logic was consistent in both cases.
Re:Linux Running on Apple M1 by titzer on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @12:34PM (#25849241)
It was a decision I was considering for months, the memory corruption just forced it. I didn't expect software to be this far behind. I was aware that the RAM and everything is even less upgradeable than a Stinkpad, but I am hoping this machine is more reliable overall and it will give me 5+ years of service. (My last Macbook Pro from 2010 was still kicking up until 2018, when I switched to the Stinkpad because keyboard.).
Re:Linux Running on Apple M1 by titzer on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @12:30PM (#25849171)
Yeah, I know. But the chip kicks butt :)

Software will catch up with the M1, I hope!

Re:Linux Running on Apple M1 by mhh__ on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @09:05PM (#25854459)
> Software will catch up with the M1, I hope!

Can't wait for [Your least favourite Electron App] to use even more CPU cycles!

Re:Linux Running on Apple M1 by penagwin on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @11:45AM (#25848595)
I'm not sure how buying a M1 macbook pro will help considering it also has soldered ram?
Re:Linux Running on Apple M1 by noisy_boy on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @12:01PM (#25848816)
> Make sure not to buy a Stinkpad (or any hardware) with non-replaceable parts!

Correct - that is why I bought a Thinkpad X1 Extreme - both SSD and RAM are user replaceable. Granted its not as thin as X1 Carbon but I don't need to carry it around much so that is not a big issue for me.

Re:Linux Running on Apple M1 by u678u on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @05:45PM (#25852975)
I dont really understand why modern devs can't carry a 5 pound laptop. Its not exactly a burden.
Re:Linux Running on Apple M1 by saagarjha on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @07:55PM (#25854003)
5 pounds is pretty heavy.
Re:Linux Running on Apple M1 by my123 on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @11:24AM (#25848276)
If you can pinpoint which pages are affected (in most cases you can), you can just add that range to the blacklist.

Can work in the meantime, before you have a new machine.

Re:Linux Running on Apple M1 by titzer on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @12:32PM (#25849204)
There were dozens of ranges, too many to blacklist. Which made me suspect that it might actually be the memory controller. In which case, it's totally F'd. But given this I went for total data evac.
Re:Linux Running on Apple M1 by spockz on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @04:11PM (#25852048)
Couldn’t you just move the disk to another device and read it from there instead of risking data corruption or going through all the hassle of comparing checksums?
Re:Linux Running on Apple M1 by titzer on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @08:00PM (#25854034)
Perhaps. It has an SSD, so I'd need a thingie like this adapter to do that: https://www.amazon.com/SATA-Adapter-Thinkpad-Lenovo-Carbon/d...

But I don't have a SATA reader either, so I'd need one of those :-)

Re:Linux Running on Apple M1 by meibo on Wednesday January 20, 2021 @12:19PM (#25849034)
I was more so referring to the Linux experience, haven't had any troubles with ThinkPad hardware as of yet but I know that there are complaints around it as of late :)

Though, if you want a serviceable system, I'd stay away from Apple - the RAM in your new M1 mac is actually included in the SoC, not sure how much you'd like to get in there!