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Re:China and Japan race to dominate the future of high-speed... by deepnotderp on Monday January 18, 2021 @12:43AM (#25818584)
> Planes are only cheaper and faster when you don't care about land usage

The land that airports use is negligible compared to hsr tracks

Re:China and Japan race to dominate the future of high-speed... by SECProto on Monday January 18, 2021 @09:40AM (#25822191)
HSR can be put underground. And since urban land is expensive, the rails are put underground. 90% of the Chuo Shinkansen will be underground[0]. The first section of the proposed Northeast Maglev in the US will be 75% underground[1]. The Hokkaido Shinkansen extension will be 76% tunnels (and only 7% at grade - the other 17% is bridges and viaducts) [2][3]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C5%AB%C5%8D_Shinkansen [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast_Maglev [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hokkaido_Shinkansen [3] pdf warning https://www.mlit.go.jp/common/000215188.pdf

Re:China and Japan race to dominate the future of high-speed... by nine_k on Monday January 18, 2021 @03:17AM (#25819453)
Rail tracks spend land in small amounts along their length. The terminals are pretty compact and can be largely put underground, so you can arrive to, or depart from, the very busy central areas of e.g. NYC, or London, or Paris, or Tokyo.

Planes do not require land under the flight path, but require colossal lumps of land for airports. These may be harder to allocate near a city, and you have to spend 40-60 minutes to get from an airport to the busy central areas of NYC or London.

This is a tradeoff, like most things in life.