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Re:Testosterone levels show steady decrease among young US men by cat199 on Thursday January 14, 2021 @04:03PM (#25782483)
> I don't think drunken bar fights was ever socially acceptable anywhere but the lowest of social strata.

Not how it fits in the discussion, but I'd put duelling in the same category, and this was clearly acceptable among elites when it was acceptable overall

Re:Testosterone levels show steady decrease among young US men by irrational on Thursday January 14, 2021 @04:10PM (#25782587)
Is it really similar? Duels would be scheduled in advanced. There would be rules to be followed. I don't think I ever read about a duel involving fisticuffs. I suppose you could be saying that a duel is the posh version of a drunken bar fight, but that's like saying that a moderated debate is the posh version of a profanity filled screaming match in a bar parking lot.
Re:Testosterone levels show steady decrease among young US men by nradov on Thursday January 14, 2021 @10:18PM (#25786585)
Even when dueling was considered acceptable upper-class behavior, most men never fought a duel. It was a drastic, last-resort kind of affair. And even when duels did occur, the duelists sometimes just went through the motions for honor's sake rather than shooting to kill.