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Re:Why is America the 'no-vacation nation'? by jquery on Monday May 23, 2011 @08:14PM (#2578147)
Once an hour is fine. What do you need to do that's so urgent that you can't plan ahead more than 45 minutes?
Re:Why is America the 'no-vacation nation'? by potatolicious on Monday May 23, 2011 @08:30PM (#2578177)
What happens if I told you your garage door will open for 30 seconds on the hour, every hour?
Re:Why is America the 'no-vacation nation'? by jquery on Monday May 23, 2011 @08:44PM (#2578212)
If you gave me an extra $500-1000 a month and significant extra life expectancy I'd take that deal in a heartbeat.

The freedom of being able to go wherever you want in a heartbeat in a car is highly overrated. Call a taxi for those times when it's actually urgent.

Re:Why is America the 'no-vacation nation'? by potatolicious on Tuesday May 24, 2011 @02:17AM (#2578886)
You miss my point - I don't have a car, nor do I want one, and I'm a complete proponent of urbanism and mass transit.

But once-an-hour does not a transit system make. There's a false dichotomy here - the choices aren't car vs. shitty transit. We can very well have good transit (i.e., arterial mass transit with frequency of every 10 minutes or better).

The problem with infrequent transit, particularly arterial routes, is that it completely wipes out the possibility of transfers. When your frequency is once an hour (with a high variance for on-time performance), people cannot rely on the transit method for making connections. Moreso, decreasing frequency increases total trip time for most people by a factor larger than the actual frequency drop (which is to say, a decrease in frequency of an arterial route results in a very large increase for most whole-trip times). A highly frequent (i.e. every 10 minutes or better) trunk line is the bed rock of any mass transit solution, and is absolutely non-optional.

Re:Why is America the 'no-vacation nation'? by pstack on Tuesday May 24, 2011 @04:16AM (#2579083)
When I was just starting out, I lived on one side of town and my work was on the other side of town. My home town has extremely well-regarded public transit. Still, it took about 2.5hrs to get to work. Another 2.5 to get back. That turned a 9 hour day into a 14 hour day. And if a bus or train was just a little early, it could screw things up even further.

We have this idea that Americans don't use public transit, because they're infatuated with their cars. To a degree, we are. However, we also hate the work commute. The reason more don't use public transit is that it is not feasible for the average person to spend so much time sitting on a bus or train and making two or three transfers every day twice a day . . . on top of work. Especially if they have a family.

The idea of tighter communities where people work near their home is fantastic. Too bad we've already built our cities and roads and housing tracts, though. It's a thought for another bustling economy that is just starting to build out their infrastructure in the 21st century instead of the 19th and 20th century to do, though. We've already built our mess.

Re:Why is America the 'no-vacation nation'? by felipe on Tuesday May 24, 2011 @01:12AM (#2578761)
If you depend on other systems to commute (VTA, BART, etc...), then 45 minutes makes a huge difference. A one-way trip from South Bay to East Bay can easily take 3 hours if you take VTA+Caltrain+BART+Muni, while by car it takes just 30-45 minutes.
Re:Why is America the 'no-vacation nation'? by mahyarm on Monday May 23, 2011 @08:36PM (#2578192)
To give you a comparison, the sky-train system in Vancouver comes every 2 to 10 minutes during most waking hours (late evening it comes every twenty on the canada line)
Re:Why is America the 'no-vacation nation'? by jquery on Monday May 23, 2011 @08:47PM (#2578219)
I hope you weren't taking my statement to be that our situation couldn't be better. It certainly could. All I'm saying is once an hour is perfectly adequate to ditch a car-centric lifestyle.
Re:Why is America the 'no-vacation nation'? by foxit on Tuesday May 24, 2011 @01:19AM (#2578775)
It's the time wasted waiting for rarely appearing public transportation that is the problem.