Intel is dying and we can’t save it

Re:Intel is dying and we can’t save it by danijelb on Thursday January 14, 2021 @10:19AM (#25777316)

This is very US-centric view. Most countries in the world don't have chip fabrication facilities in their country and they do just fine. Sure, US is currently a superpower whose influence is felt across the world so having chip manufacturing locally is very important, but in a scenario where US would lose some influence that would no longer be an issue, same as it is not an issue for Canada, Germany or Russia.

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Re:Intel is dying and we can’t save it by morsch on Thursday January 14, 2021 @11:01AM (#25777946)

The EU is worried about it to the tune of 145bn EUR...

https://www.eetimes.eu/eu-signs-e145bn-declaration-to-develo...

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Re:Intel is dying and we can’t save it by kllrnohj on Thursday January 14, 2021 @11:48AM (#25778606)

So is China: https://www.tomshardware.com/features/zhaoxin-kx-u6780a-x86-...

> As such, China began an initiative to build its own processors back in the early 80's that eventually evolved into the "Made in China 2025" campaign that has the goal of producing 70% of the chips used in China by 2025.

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Re:Intel is dying and we can’t save it by 9L91EEhoEywJ on Thursday January 14, 2021 @01:13PM (#25779884)

That should be a pretty easy goal for them to hit, right? Just buy the chips that are manufactured at TSMC.

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Re:Intel is dying and we can’t save it by kllrnohj on Thursday January 14, 2021 @01:38PM (#25780284)

TSMC doesn't design chips, which is the stated goal. China wants China-designed chips, not just "China" manufactured chips.

(ignoring that TSMC is Taiwanese and not currently under PRC rule but is instead de-facto independent and mostly internationally recognized as being independent...)

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Re:Intel is dying and we can’t save it by LunaSea on Thursday January 14, 2021 @10:24AM (#25777384)

> Most countries in the world don't have chip fabrication facilities in their country and they do just fine.

I don't think that Huawei is doing is doing just fine.

You have to think about scenarios where countries are opposed to the US for one reason or another.

The Patriot Act being renewed for 6 months and thus putting Cuba in the embargoed countries even more than they already were should be a good second example.

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Re:Intel is dying and we can’t save it by dghlsakjg on Thursday January 14, 2021 @10:53AM (#25777799)

Canada and Germany aren't bothered about it because they have allies that ARE worried about it.

Taiwan isn't under Chinese control, but if there was an escalating situation, you would assume that it would fall under Chinese control VERY quickly.

Up here in Canada, there is no need for fabs as long as the US has them. Canada has no real choice but friendly relations with the US (geography forces this), the upside is that many of the strategic resources belonging to the US are available to Canada.

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