Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli...
by slg on Wednesday January 13, 2021 @09:52PM
(#25771242)
Due to the people involved, Parler is almost certainly not a honeypot setup by the FBI, CIA, or some other government organization. However some of the details that have leaked out over the last week made me wonder how little of the site would have changed if that was the intended purpose.
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli...
by KMag on Wednesday January 13, 2021 @11:31PM
(#25772043)
Sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli...
by tlrobinson on Thursday January 14, 2021 @12:53AM
(#25772633)
Hah, this is great. If you don't get the references, it's Hanlon's Razor ("Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity") plus Arthur C. Clarke's "3rd law" ("Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.")
Apparently it's called Grey's Law: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Grey%27s%20L...
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli...
by nullsense on Thursday January 14, 2021 @02:57AM
(#25773469)
Does that make it a "quotemanteau"?
Wait... Is that a thing? Are there more of these?
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli...
by riffraff on Thursday January 14, 2021 @03:32AM
(#25773712)
I vote for "quotemanteau" to be officially sanctioned!
But I would say the specific case is merely a snowclone[0] of "any sufficiently X is indistinguishable from Y"
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli...
by nullsense on Thursday January 14, 2021 @05:05AM
(#25774497)
It appears to have the properties of both in this case.
That is to say it's a snowclone where the substitutions come from another quote.
I guess quotemanteaus are a special kind of unique snowclone.
You could take "with great power comes great responsibility" and form the snowclone "with great X comes great Y" and then take the quote "the medium is the message" and use those in your snowclone to make the quotemanteau "with a great medium comes a great message"
Hmm... I feel like I should try concoct more of these. They're fun.
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli...
by frays on Sunday January 17, 2021 @03:26AM
(#25809141)
Thank you for the explanation.
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli...
by patates on Thursday January 14, 2021 @04:38AM
(#25774206)
More like, sufficiently advanced malice is indistinguishable from common incompetence :)
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli...
by xkcd-sucks on Thursday January 14, 2021 @12:21AM
(#25772438)
It's pretty well demonstrated that Three Letter Agencies really like enticing idiots people into fantasy situations well above their competency in order to generate terrorism convictions so it's always a possibility even if there's no demonstrable third party malicious action
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli...
by pc86 on Thursday January 14, 2021 @10:11AM
(#25777187)
And in this case there is demonstrable malicious action.
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli...
by throwanem on Wednesday January 13, 2021 @11:10PM
(#25771869)
It would probably have been more secure.
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli...
by astronautjones on Thursday January 14, 2021 @01:27AM
(#25772864)
this is true "female body inspector" shirt clientele though
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli...
by pelliphant on Thursday January 14, 2021 @04:47AM
(#25774302)
they would have required authentication for their api calls if that was the case...
Besides that, probably not much. =)
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli...
by Exmoor on Wednesday January 13, 2021 @10:21PM
(#25771460)
Indeed. The level of security failure was pretty incredible. They named media serially (So, pics/1.jpg, pics/2.jpg, etc.) and did not have any validation that you were allowed to access what you were grabbing so it was literally as easy as possible to grab everything. Oh, and did I mention that private messages were also fully accessible?
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli...
by fomine3 on Thursday January 14, 2021 @01:20AM
(#25772810)
So Gab's strategy (fork Mastodon) looks solid for security but they hit performance issue because Mastodon isn't made for such scale.
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli...
by gargron on Thursday January 14, 2021 @03:30AM
(#25773698)
Mastodon scales horizontally until PostgreSQL becomes the bottleneck:
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli...
by slim on Thursday January 14, 2021 @09:03AM
(#25776317)
they needed a platform that would not need to scale before the database server becomes a bottleneck
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli...
by f430 on Wednesday January 13, 2021 @10:28PM
(#25771501)
I am convinced this was an inside job. There is simply no way someone can be this incompetent without willful intent.
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli...
by missedthecue on Wednesday January 13, 2021 @11:11PM
(#25771876)
Ever worked for a startup? This is what "move fast, break things" does.
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli...
by nafey on Thursday January 14, 2021 @12:12AM
(#25772375)
This happens at established firms as often as startups.
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli...
by vlovich123 on Wednesday January 13, 2021 @11:25PM
(#25771987)
I have but only at competent ones. Nothing this flagrantly bad.
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli...
by redisman on Thursday January 14, 2021 @01:56AM
(#25773050)
I’ve seen not quite this bad but definitely in the same order of magnitude
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli...
by burlesonK on Thursday January 14, 2021 @06:35AM
(#25775167)
I disagree, incompetance is rampant. I worked for a healthcare company who kept it's data at a Dell security center. One of their people ran a SQL script that deleted millions of billing records. They informed us later that they could not recover the data because every 24 hours they were writing over the one backup they kept. We had missed the window by a few hours.
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli...
by wilsynet on Thursday January 14, 2021 @01:45AM
(#25772990)
You take shortcuts. Saying you’ll fix it later. Which never happens because you’re busy on the next feature that is riddled with the next set of shortcuts.
It happens.
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli...
by redisman on Wednesday January 13, 2021 @10:53PM
(#25771730)
Let me introduce you to every early stage startup in the world. Plenty of mature companies also have completely abysmal security practices
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli...
by eyelidlessness on Thursday January 14, 2021 @02:17AM
(#25773181)
I wish I could disclose some of the incompetence I’ve encountered to persuade you otherwise. The reason there aren’t breaches like this of nearly all systems isn’t because most systems are better protected, it’s because no one’s interest (or they’re not interested for the purposes of sharing).
Re:Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay onli...
by bawolff on Thursday January 14, 2021 @01:34AM
(#25772910)
You'd be surprised how incompetent people can be when it comes to security. Nothing i have heard so far would really surprise me for a small startup with very rapid growth.
OH SHI-
This is a colossal mess up, on epic proportions.