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Re:FTC Settlement with Fertility-Tracking App for Facebook/G... by MarkSweep on Wednesday January 13, 2021 @02:00PM (#25766479)
If anyone is looking for an alternative to Flo, as of iOS 13 the built-in Health app has similar functionality:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210407

Re:FTC Settlement with Fertility-Tracking App for Facebook/G... by mtlynch on Wednesday January 13, 2021 @05:07PM (#25768590)
I know of another one called POW! made by indie developer Benedicte Raae:

https://www.usepow.app/

The data is all client-side encrypted, so she doesn't collect any sensitive user data that could be sold or abused.

I've never used it, but I think the privacy-first mission is cool.

Re:FTC Settlement with Fertility-Tracking App for Facebook/G... by raae on Friday January 15, 2021 @01:28PM (#25794243)
Hey, this is Benedicte. If the app is not for you there is also the newsletter about privacy, menstrual health and POW!: https://www.usepow.app/newsletter
Re:FTC Settlement with Fertility-Tracking App for Facebook/G... by Darkphibre on Wednesday January 13, 2021 @04:27PM (#25768182)
Open inquiry: Anything out there recommended for Android or PC?
Re:FTC Settlement with Fertility-Tracking App for Facebook/G... by BelenusMordred on Thursday January 14, 2021 @12:16AM (#25772395)
Anything on f-droid is going to be good. Last time this story came up I saw a comment saying there was two prominent apps there.

It's scary how many people don't immediately go for the open source alternative before checking the Google play store. Most people publishing on f-droid use their real name, have verifiable open source activity, have a professional reputation to maintain and have their apps open to world to be scrutinised.

Checking F-Droid should be your first choice everytime.

Re:FTC Settlement with Fertility-Tracking App for Facebook/G... by judge2020 on Thursday January 14, 2021 @01:34AM (#25772913)
> Anything on f-droid is going to be good

I fail to see how an app being on F-Droid inherently mean it’s going to be privacy-friendly.

Re:FTC Settlement with Fertility-Tracking App for Facebook/G... by BelenusMordred on Thursday January 14, 2021 @01:51AM (#25773026)
Android SDKs themselves can be leaky and are incredibly widespread, this is a clear flaw in mobile appsec and not that well known.

That said basically everything benefits from the sun shining in on it. F-Droid alerts you to anything dodgy under the hood, has reproducible builds[1] and in general has none of the complete shitshow that is playstore.

In my 5EYES country Google's playstore has to secretly insert malware if the government wants it and there's no way for the end user to tell if that's the case.

Tell me a common use for a mobile app and we can compare what is available on both play store and f-droid.

[1] https://f-droid.org/en/docs/Reproducible_Builds/

Re:FTC Settlement with Fertility-Tracking App for Facebook/G... by judge2020 on Thursday January 14, 2021 @02:26AM (#25773259)
I’m more pointing out how it’s not a silver bullet (and how a silver bullet for app privacy doesn’t exist); nothing is perfect and f-droid is no exception, even if it is better than Play Store. Nothing is stopping an app from uploading user data for a good purpose then selling it to third parties.
Re:FTC Settlement with Fertility-Tracking App for Facebook/G... by BelenusMordred on Thursday January 14, 2021 @02:45AM (#25773388)
> nothing is perfect and f-droid is no exception, even if it is better than Play Store

Not wearing a seatbelt isn't perfect, and yet we all still do it :)

Re:FTC Settlement with Fertility-Tracking App for Facebook/G... by Ntrails on Thursday January 14, 2021 @05:40AM (#25774791)
> Not wearing a seatbelt isn't perfect, and yet we all still do it :)

Provably false.

Re:FTC Settlement with Fertility-Tracking App for Facebook/G... by smokey_the_bear on Thursday January 14, 2021 @12:34AM (#25772509)
I recommend fertility friend, from their privacy policy

“ FertilityFriend.com is fully funded by its VIP service fees and has been so since we started. It does not rely on any type of data trading for any of its funding or any other purpose. In other words, you are not the product. Clear and straightforward, our charting service is what we sell and nothing else.”

They also have a more data driven approach to fertility than most other sources.

Re:FTC Settlement with Fertility-Tracking App for Facebook/G... by jwlit on Wednesday January 13, 2021 @07:14PM (#25769929)
For Android, there's Clue : https://helloclue.com/
Re:FTC Settlement with Fertility-Tracking App for Facebook/G... by zaq1 on Wednesday January 13, 2021 @11:38PM (#25772096)
I would recommend Drip, which is available on F-Droid. FOSS with very minimal permissions. I'd suggest checking it for trackers with ClassyShark (also on FD).

https://f-droid.org/packages/com.drip

Screenshots feature a modern looking UI.

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Re:FTC Settlement with Fertility-Tracking App for Facebook/G... by yjftsjthsd-h on Wednesday January 13, 2021 @10:56PM (#25771752)
No encryption, no backups, no on-device analysis (stats, charts), inconvenient to use: Not secure, not an app, not a good alternative.
Re:FTC Settlement with Fertility-Tracking App for Facebook/G... by etrabroline on Wednesday January 13, 2021 @11:03PM (#25771813)
>not an app

That foible stands out as humorous. Why does a solution to a problem need to be a smart phone app? lol

Otherwise excellent points.

Re:FTC Settlement with Fertility-Tracking App for Facebook/G... by yjftsjthsd-h on Wednesday January 13, 2021 @11:12PM (#25771889)
I was specifically responding to:

> There is a secure app called garbage bin

hence calling out that it isn't.

(But sure, I actually am fine with non-app solutions when they're actually good)