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Re:Worried about Signal, WhatsApp is taking out full page ad... by dilippkumar on Wednesday January 13, 2021 @02:15AM (#25759166)
Anyone know how this works? If everything that Facebook claims in that newspaper advertisement is true, then Facebook has

- paid $19 billion to buy whatsapp

- Removed whatsapp’s subscription model and given it away for free

- Has been paying the bills for the infrastructure and maintenance costs of a massively popular service

- Paid for a full page advertisement in newspapers with claims that whatsapp data will not be monetized like the other Facebook services

This makes zero sense to me. Everything about whatsapp looks like an expense to Facebook. Can someone more knowledgeable please help make sense of this situation?

Re:Worried about Signal, WhatsApp is taking out full page ad... by tinus_hn on Wednesday January 13, 2021 @04:41AM (#25760016)
They have a captive audience of just about everyone. They can put things in the WhatsApp client and everyone will see it.

Almost everyone has WhatsApp, much more people than have Facebook. And Facebook is slowly dying.

Facebook bought WhatsApp (and also Instagram) so Facebook the company has a future. Because it’s not quite sure Facebook the network has one.

Re:Worried about Signal, WhatsApp is taking out full page ad... by 0800LUCAS on Wednesday January 13, 2021 @04:20AM (#25759876)
This is called commoditization. Pretty much every company does this.

You offer a product that would normally be paid, for free and gain market share. Then you build a business on top of that customer base you created.

That's where WhatsApp comes in for Facebook. They've gained huge market share, now they can attract businesses that want to sell directly to consumers. This is pretty handy and common in countries like Brazil.

Before people start shouting against Facebook, I'll reiterate that every company does this: - Microsoft did by driving PCs' prices down so they could gain software market share. - Stripe does it, with things like Stripe Atlas. They commoditize creating your own business by making it very simple. The idea is that [some of] those new businesses will eventually use Stripe and will help the company grow.

This is a pretty common pattern.

Re:Worried about Signal, WhatsApp is taking out full page ad... by andy1729 on Wednesday January 13, 2021 @09:03AM (#25762041)
Facebook has monetization plan for whatsapp in India. In partnership with Reliance Jio, they are launching an e-commerce on whatsapp! So all of these strategies including publishing ad in newspapers makes sense in that regard
Re:Worried about Signal, WhatsApp is taking out full page ad... by skzv on Wednesday January 13, 2021 @03:10AM (#25759479)
The only rationalization I can imagine is that providing whatsapp potentially prevents the emergence of a competitor who steals users from Facebook through their chat service.
Re:Worried about Signal, WhatsApp is taking out full page ad... by bryan_w on Wednesday January 13, 2021 @03:56AM (#25759742)
Facebook wants to get businesses to use whatsapp and that's where they will get value. Payments + services for businesses will subsidize the E2EE personal chat.
Re:Worried about Signal, WhatsApp is taking out full page ad... by guerrilla on Wednesday January 13, 2021 @03:02AM (#25759437)
Not that I buy what they're selling in your fourth point for the long term, but I imagine ads like on Facebook.