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Re:Wuhan lab infected 'humanized mice' with bat coronaviruse... by biolurker1 on Monday January 11, 2021 @01:53PM (#25734139)
How much evidence is needed so we stop labeling this theory as conspiracy? Xi's admission?
Re:Wuhan lab infected 'humanized mice' with bat coronaviruse... by thatguy0900 on Monday January 11, 2021 @02:34PM (#25734999)
So they specifically tried and succeeded to turn multiple virus' that didn't effect humans into ones that did? What is the purpose of doing that to begin with?
Re:Wuhan lab infected 'humanized mice' with bat coronaviruse... by foxyv on Monday January 11, 2021 @05:01PM (#25737977)
The usual purpose of these studies is to anticipate wild strains doing the same thing, to get ahead of pandemics, and develop vaccines before it spreads.

Unfortunately it's a waste if you: Don't heed the research anticipating wild spread or publish results, don't develop a vaccine, and/or accidentally release your enhanced virus before a wild strain pops up.

Re:Wuhan lab infected 'humanized mice' with bat coronaviruse... by thatguy0900 on Monday January 11, 2021 @05:21PM (#25738315)
Has any virus actually been headed off with a vaccine already having been created in anticipation of the virus coming into existence eventually? That's really interesting

Edit: and how useful would it be if it was? I was under the impression that covid vaccines were made extremely quickly and that it was regulatory issues that held it until now

Re:Wuhan lab infected 'humanized mice' with bat coronaviruse... by foxyv on Thursday January 14, 2021 @07:02PM (#25784942)
In the past, I think the research has been of limited use. However, speculating into the future, with the advances in vaccine development we could possibly see fruit from that sort of research. A lot of the bans on Gain of Function research has recently ended. Still, scary stuff!
Re:Wuhan lab infected 'humanized mice' with bat coronaviruse... by Havoc on Monday January 11, 2021 @12:54PM (#25732806)
Perhaps a second source?

Taiwan commenting on the wrongdoings of China seems a little...problematic

Re:Wuhan lab infected 'humanized mice' with bat coronaviruse... by notquitehere on Monday January 11, 2021 @01:34PM (#25733602)
The article discusses a 2014 U.S. ban on virus gain-of-function experiments. Looking it up, I found this 2015 Nature article which also mentions the ban.

https://www.nature.com/news/engineered-bat-virus-stirs-debat...

Here's a link to the 2017 Wuhan labs research paper that was quoted: "we constructed a group of infectious bacterial artificial chromosome (BAC) clones with the backbone of WIV1 and variants of S genes from 8 different bat SARSr-CoVs" https://journals.plos.org/plospathogens/article?id=10.1371/j...

Re:Wuhan lab infected 'humanized mice' with bat coronaviruse... by guilhas on Monday January 11, 2021 @05:22PM (#25738326)
One week "conspiracy theories are stupid", another week "hey look at these conspiracy theories"
Re:Wuhan lab infected 'humanized mice' with bat coronaviruse... by rasz on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @06:39AM (#25745513)
Its not a conspiracy when you can find research papers published by Wuhan scientists describing exactly what they were doing.
Re:Wuhan lab infected 'humanized mice' with bat coronaviruse... by guilhas on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @07:13AM (#25745816)
Most conspiracies are based from connneconnecting real facts. Most times those connections are disregard. As glitches, coincidences, mistakes, like in the election fraud.

In this case the subtext conspiracy being that the virus leaked from a Chinese lab, or a Chinese bat soup, or a weapon released by the Chinese government, or from a Chinese wet market, ... Mainstream is just slowly building many narratives, to let the sheep make the "connections"

Re:Wuhan lab infected 'humanized mice' with bat coronaviruse... by lordkrandel on Monday January 11, 2021 @01:37PM (#25733706)
There was a case in Italy in Milan in November 2019, as we get to know today. Can we stop speculating?
Re:Wuhan lab infected 'humanized mice' with bat coronaviruse... by biolurker1 on Monday January 11, 2021 @01:54PM (#25734166)
Can we stop being blind to possibilities? Unless you can prove that it originated in Italy you ought to stop silencing other views that make you uncomfortable.
Re:Wuhan lab infected 'humanized mice' with bat coronaviruse... by lordkrandel on Tuesday January 12, 2021 @02:46PM (#25752405)
Uncomfortable? There is actual proof that the virus was already present in Italy in November 2019. So it wasn't fabricated after in China.