Re:Tor – All v3 onion addresses are unavailable
by pacamara619 on Sunday January 10, 2021 @09:04AM
(#25714703)
> It appears that somebody has made their own Tor client implementation and it fetches its dir info in a very rude way. If anybody knows details of it, please do let us know.
How is it possible for a "rude client" to cripple TOR in this way?
Re:Tor – All v3 onion addresses are unavailable
by bombcar on Sunday January 10, 2021 @09:14AM
(#25714773)
If I were to attack the Tor project that's one of the cards I'd want in my quiver to mix metaphors with a blender; assume there's a deficiency in v2 addresses; having a weakness in the protocol that allows someone to "crash" v3 addresses and force everyone back to v2 for a period of time might be a one-time shot; but it could be worth playing the card if the stakes were high...
The coincidence of this with Parler and all the hoopla going on right now is interesting. Nothing to see, citizen, move along.
Re:Tor – All v3 onion addresses are unavailable
by tw04 on Sunday January 10, 2021 @05:39PM
(#25720939)
>The coincidence of this with Parler and all the hoopla going on right now is interesting. Nothing to see, citizen, move along.
Are you suggesting if there's a credible threat to the president elect at the inauguration that our 3-letter agencies shouldn't do everything in their power to stop it?
Re:Tor – All v3 onion addresses are unavailable
by fckthisguy on Monday January 11, 2021 @03:23AM
(#25726189)
Yes. If "do everything in their power" includes crippling global resources. Of the US did this to the regular internet, the rest of the world would be pissed.
Re:Tor – All v3 onion addresses are unavailable
by kodablah on Sunday January 10, 2021 @09:18AM
(#25714801)
Directory servers, the DNS of Tor iirc, are a central point of failure I believe. I would guess it's hard to distribute this and keep queriers anonymous. Can do a DHT over Tor, but you still need known address list to bootstrap.
Re:Tor – All v3 onion addresses are unavailable
by shrimp_emoji on Sunday January 10, 2021 @11:32AM
(#25716354)
Seems like this might be more related to Bitcoin (it recently hit an all-time high of $40k) than plots against right-wing groups:
```
I am aware of at least 2 markets that have paid for attacks against other markets within the last few weeks. I also know of one wishing to pay for retaliation attacks.
This behavior from market admins is absolutely unacceptable and it will not be tolerated. You have [b]no idea[/b] of the ramifications this has, it is way beyond just taking your competitor offline, inadvertadly, but you are causing a problem that is a great deal worse without even knowing it, if market admins wish me to disclose these other issues to them, they can contact me directly and you will soon rethink your poor business strategy.
– From here, there will be extreme consequences for any Market admin found to be funding attacks against any other service, market or not. You know who you are and I won’t publicly out you here for it, for the time being.
```
Re:Tor – All v3 onion addresses are unavailable
by gwbas1c on Sunday January 10, 2021 @10:46AM
(#25715796)
A lot of people confuse pseudo anonymity with true anonymity.
With tracking someone, "when there's a will, there's a way." The same thing applies to platforms like tor: If there's a will to track someone down, something like tor is mainly a speed bump; not a guarantee.
Re:Tor – All v3 onion addresses are unavailable
by shrimp_emoji on Sunday January 10, 2021 @11:19AM
(#25716171)
It's a pretty steep speed bump. Roberts was caught because he was sloppy.
Centralizing the world under one ISP and legal jurisdiction would truly enable tracking anyone through Tor via timing analysis (but even then people would be able to use fancy, time-delayed mixnets). Outlawing/enforcing/banning any suspicious traffic from anyone ever would be a solid solution too. Mounting AI-monitored cameras behind every monitor or on everyone's forehead would be even better. Doing those things are even steeper speed bumps.
Re:Tor – All v3 onion addresses are unavailable
by cheaprentalyeti on Sunday January 10, 2021 @10:04AM
(#25715243)
If you're not a fascist then simply be quiet, because the Non-Fascists in control who agree with all truly decent people are going to limit themselves to censoring fascists and you have nothing to worry about.
Re:Tor – All v3 onion addresses are unavailable
by throw0101a on Sunday January 10, 2021 @10:49AM
(#25715833)
> It's pretty clear he was being sarcastic!
Yeah…
> Poe's law is an adage of Internet culture stating that, without a clear indicator of the author's intent, it is impossible to create a parody of extreme views so obviously exaggerated that it cannot be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of the views being parodied.[1][2][3]
Re:Tor – All v3 onion addresses are unavailable
by motohagiography on Sunday January 10, 2021 @10:34AM
(#25715629)
Hard not to speculate this as part of the coordinated purge of right wing media right now, as they were conceivably going to move to darknets, except suddenly new onion addresses aren't available. This would be consistent with the level of attack a state would use.
Re:Tor – All v3 onion addresses are unavailable
by Hnsuz on Sunday January 10, 2021 @09:12AM
(#25714759)
What happend to good ol validations?
Can we build a bit harder these servers.. These services are cornerstone to many people. These days you have to be so so carefull with everything.
Critical thinking seems to be crime these days to our police state lovers.
How is it possible for a "rude client" to cripple TOR in this way?
The coincidence of this with Parler and all the hoopla going on right now is interesting. Nothing to see, citizen, move along.
Are you suggesting if there's a credible threat to the president elect at the inauguration that our 3-letter agencies shouldn't do everything in their power to stop it?
"Access denied. Your IP address is blacklisted. If you feel this is in error please contact your hosting provider's abuse department."
Archive.org link works: https://web.archive.org/web/20210110154350/https://darknetda...
Internet Archive donate link: https://archive.org/donate/
``` I am aware of at least 2 markets that have paid for attacks against other markets within the last few weeks. I also know of one wishing to pay for retaliation attacks.
This behavior from market admins is absolutely unacceptable and it will not be tolerated. You have [b]no idea[/b] of the ramifications this has, it is way beyond just taking your competitor offline, inadvertadly, but you are causing a problem that is a great deal worse without even knowing it, if market admins wish me to disclose these other issues to them, they can contact me directly and you will soon rethink your poor business strategy.
– From here, there will be extreme consequences for any Market admin found to be funding attacks against any other service, market or not. You know who you are and I won’t publicly out you here for it, for the time being. ```
With tracking someone, "when there's a will, there's a way." The same thing applies to platforms like tor: If there's a will to track someone down, something like tor is mainly a speed bump; not a guarantee.
Just look at how the Silk Road was brought down: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Road_(marketplace)#Arrest...
Centralizing the world under one ISP and legal jurisdiction would truly enable tracking anyone through Tor via timing analysis (but even then people would be able to use fancy, time-delayed mixnets). Outlawing/enforcing/banning any suspicious traffic from anyone ever would be a solid solution too. Mounting AI-monitored cameras behind every monitor or on everyone's forehead would be even better. Doing those things are even steeper speed bumps.
You need to have some pretty advanced knowledge to operate on the internet and not leave a trace.
If it's advanced not to do that, the bar isn't very high. :p
0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Ulbricht#Arrest
> Because I was not a socialist.
> [...]
> Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
Be careful in the application of your apathy.
Yeah…
> Poe's law is an adage of Internet culture stating that, without a clear indicator of the author's intent, it is impossible to create a parody of extreme views so obviously exaggerated that it cannot be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of the views being parodied.[1][2][3]
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law
The when always matters more than the what.