Neither Biden nor Trump actively incited riots. Though both were wishy washy about their respective riots, generally supporting "protestors" and giving generic statements disavowing violence.

None of what you said is incitement to riots, so I'm a bit confused why you are saying I'm wrong given you don't seem to disagree with me. :S

Also, he never disavowed the protestors, just the people who were breaking in and being violent (who were a small minority). And he certainly didn't "get himself banned from Twitter" by "back peddling" given he just said:

> The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!

And

> To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th.

"March down to the capitol" "We are coming for you" "We will never take this country back with weakness" "Trial by combat"

I don't know if you are being intentionally obtuse and trolling or just really this dense.

Trump, his son, and Rudy spent hours whipping that crowd into a frenzy and then directed them towards the Capitol.

This look like a small minority to you?

https://teddit.net/r/PublicFreakout/comments/kucaz0/the_mome...

That officer was beaten to death by an American flag surrounded by thousands of trump supporters, who sang fucking songs and watched.

I don't know what disgusts me more, that video or your smarmy dismissive attitude.

Only "trial by combat" could be considered incitement to violence and I don't believe that was said by Trump.

> That officer was beaten to death by an American flag surrounded by thousands of trump supporters, who sang fucking songs and watched.

Most of them wouldn't have been able to see anything. And yes, 10 people is a tiny minority of a crowd of a hundred thousand.

Go and have a look at some full raw footage/stream (you're looking for videos at 40+ minutes long) to get an idea of what most people were doing.

Also, I' appreciate it if you kept the personal attacks to a minumum, they do you no favours.

You've been breaking the site guidelines egregiously and repeatedly in your comments here. Posts like this and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25725677 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25720636 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25715970 are totally unacceptable here, and bannable offenses.

We ban accounts that do that, regardless of what they're fighting for. We don't have a choice, because it destroys what this site is supposed to exist for.

I'm not going to ban you right now because it doesn't look like you've been doing this for a super long time. But please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and use this site in the intended spirit: thoughtful, curious conversation across differences. If you can't do that, that's understandable of course, but then please don't post until you can.

HN's rules have been designed to try to preserve this place as somehow interesting, not the scorched earth that internet forums usually descend to. The rules don't stop applying because someone else is wrong or you feel they are, and it's not ok to break them because you're right or you feel you are. Actually those are the cases where they apply the most.

You're right.

Honestly I just need to take a break from the web for a while.

I've been feeling pretty enraged lately, especially when dealing with people who seem dedicated to ignoring reality.

I appreciate the warning.

there is only one side with a president. If you had asked differently, you couldnt be so biased anymore because many many democrat politicians were quite explicitly encouraging more riots and even harassment of politicians. While police stations were burned down. Meanwhile a bunch of Trump supporters casually walked into the senate laughing and smiling and giving thumbs up to the camera. If you cant see which one is worse, nobody can help you

Are you fucking kidding me?

They were chanting "Hang Pence", they had guns, they killed a police officer, they setup a fucking gallows. They were seeking hostages and a few guards and chair barricade were the only thing preventing them from stopping the certification process for the the first time in our countries history.

Are you really this disconnected from what is actually happening right now or do you have you head so far up your ass that you can't see the difference between civil rights protests and an armed coup at the capitol of the United States?