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Re:Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler by paulddraper on Sunday January 10, 2021 @01:39AM (#25711492)
On May 31, they set fire to the Church of the Presidents, threatening the entire city.

(To be clear, as in most cases, I'm sure this was only a tiny minority of extremists.)

> Until then, he can build his own platform and spout his ideas there.

That's exactly what this is about: Parler.

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EDIT: Not to mention there was an astonishingly low number of casualties for such a deliberately violent attack force.

Re:Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler by awb on Sunday January 10, 2021 @02:04AM (#25711732)
Setting fire to an empty church (arson) is a lot different than attacking an active session of congress (terrorism) with the stated goal of forcibly blocking the certification of the next democratically elected President (coup). Yes, they're both crimes and both bad, but only in the same way that assault and murder are both crimes and both bad.

Parler is still free to operate. Just don't expect the tacit cooperation of those who understand just how bad situation could have been if the mob actually found Pence and did what they were chanting they wanted to do to him.

Re:Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler by paulddraper on Sunday January 10, 2021 @04:03AM (#25712583)
Kavanaugh's nomination was stopped by a mob too.
Re:Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler by awb on Sunday January 10, 2021 @12:20PM (#25716891)
Yeah, but they weren’t instructed to go there by a politician. And their goal was to disrupt, not kill.

This is a classic “both sides” argument.

Are you arguing that both sides have done bad things? Yes, that’s true. Everyone at some point in their life has done a bad thing, so you will always be able to point out “a bad thing”.

Are you arguing that both sides have done bad things of the same degree? No way. I’d love to hear an example of any other party leader in history using the inflammatory language Trump has used, lying about election results to supporters and begging politicians to overturn an election, resulting in terrorism and multiple deaths. This is unprecedented, inexcusable and unfortunately completely predictable.

Re:Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler by paulddraper on Sunday January 10, 2021 @02:22PM (#25718535)
I don't know of any example in the last 150 years of a party leader doing that.

But this isn't about Trump; this is about Parler and the consistency of AWS is applying to its Terms and Service to of service for hundreds of thousands of users over the weekend.

Trump doesn't even use Parler AFAIK; his actions are related but tangential to the core issue of Parler + AWS.

Re:Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler by asxd on Sunday January 10, 2021 @02:06AM (#25711750)
Parler is not independent though, in the sense that they rely on Amazon servers, and Amazon has a right to decide who they do business with.

Similarly, Google and Apple can choose who they allow to use their marketplaces. On Android I believe Parler wouldn't have too hard a time distributing their app on their own. But granted, on Apple devices, I think installing non App Store software is a non-starter for most people.

This begs a somewhat unrelated question though--why doesn't Parler just live as a web application that doesn't require an app? They would still have to migrate from AWS, but it would still allow people to continue using it despite Google and Apple's decisions, right?

Re:Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler by monkeywork on Sunday January 10, 2021 @01:43AM (#25711531)
and no one has said that parlor has to shut down. if you agree with the train of thought that if twitter doesn't want you go and start your own, then you apply that same logic to Apple and Google saying they don't want parlor.