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Re:PeerTube v3 by toolz on Saturday January 09, 2021 @10:52PM (#25709585)
To directly answer your question, I would say no - however it is ideological activism to only enforce those ToS for specific services. The #killallmen hashtag has trended more than once on twitter, for example.
Re:PeerTube v3 by wilsynet on Saturday January 09, 2021 @11:11PM (#25709830)
Agreed. Twitter should enforce this more consistently.
Re:PeerTube v3 by toolz on Saturday January 09, 2021 @11:24PM (#25709981)
I would suggest in this specific incidence they are enforcing it very consistently in that they aren't punishing anyone for inciting that particular type of violence.
Re:PeerTube v3 by cortesoft on Saturday January 09, 2021 @11:21PM (#25709938)
Sure, but no one has actually tried to kill all men. They didn't do this latest action until after people were actually killed by the violence incited.
Re:PeerTube v3 by roenxi on Sunday January 10, 2021 @12:18AM (#25710621)
That is giving "kill all men" a metaphorical reading. That is a fair reading, it probably isn't actually a call to violence, they just feel frustrated about something.

The issue is that a fair reading is not being applied evenly. Twitter interprets "To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th" [0] as a call to violence. That isn't even close to a fair metaphorical reading, and it was probably meant literally.

[0] https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2020/suspensio...

Re:PeerTube v3 by etchalon on Sunday January 10, 2021 @04:13AM (#25712671)
The post made clear that it wasn't about the tweet itself, but the broader context and how the tweet was being interpreted by communities who sought to do harm.

You can argue that's not fair to Trump, and don't pretend his accounts were banned for the literal meaning of the words, when the post you linked to makes clear the thinking behind the decision.

Re:PeerTube v3 by throwaway316943 on Sunday January 10, 2021 @06:38AM (#25713692)
This is the “video games cause violence argument”
Re:PeerTube v3 by cortesoft on Sunday January 10, 2021 @01:01PM (#25717389)
That is no way comparable. This would be like if there was a video game where you killed politicians with machetes and then suddenly a bunch of politicians were killed in machete attacks.

At that point, you wouldn’t be able to say the video game was not a cause. This is not blaming Trump for abstract violence in general, but for specific violence that he called for actually happening.

Re:PeerTube v3 by cortesoft on Sunday January 10, 2021 @12:55PM (#25717309)
Right, but the violence actually happened. If we suddenly had people reading the #killallmen hashtag as literal, and start killing men, then Twitter would likely ban it. Once Trump’s tweets led to an actual terrorist attack, they banned him.

It is not a perfect system, but I think banning based on result is not an unfair system.

Re:PeerTube v3 by rzz3 on Sunday January 10, 2021 @03:21AM (#25712275)
It is still a very direct call to violence.
Re:PeerTube v3 by wilsynet on Sunday January 10, 2021 @03:52AM (#25712503)
Is it a credible call to violence, or is it more of a figure of speech?

I’d say that Trump’s calls to violence are pretty credible.

Re:PeerTube v3 by toolz on Sunday January 10, 2021 @05:55PM (#25721153)
which message from trump was a call to violence? Genuinely asking as I probably haven't followed this whole mess as closely as I could've
Re:PeerTube v3 by astrange on Saturday January 09, 2021 @11:22PM (#25709950)
Has anyone attempted to kill all men?
Re:PeerTube v3 by toolz on Saturday January 09, 2021 @11:42PM (#25710191)
After a quick search, yes there is at least one incident of a woman who killed a boy and stated that she wanted to kill all men. There may be more, I haven't spent much time on the subject, either way the definition of incitement doesn't require anyone to follow through with the incited actions.
Re:PeerTube v3 by wilsynet on Sunday January 10, 2021 @03:48AM (#25712470)
I definitely think that the person who killed a boy and stated that she wants to kill all men — I definitely think they shouldn’t have a Twitter account

Has Twitter been made aware of this person and won’t suspend their account?

Re:PeerTube v3 by odessacubbage on Sunday January 10, 2021 @02:54AM (#25712101)
valerie solanas comes to mind