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Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by threatofrain on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @05:25PM (#25663495)
That's stupid. No impeachment process could ever finish on time.
Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by ashtonkem on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @05:26PM (#25663503)
It can be done in 30min if they want. Impeachment goes how congress wants it to, the only part of the process set in stone is the voting requirements.

Edit: oh and the 25th amendment would allow trump to object and be effectively tried in the senate. That amendment is really designed more for “the president is in a coma” than for “the president is currently trying to overthrow the government”.

Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by threatofrain on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @05:34PM (#25663601)
If you rush impeachment, you will obliterate any productivity you sought for impeachment. The same is true for elections in that these aren't just procedural events, they are soul-defining events for a democracy, and the loss of credibility would be losing what matters most.

Another Mueller would take forever to prepare a case for the American people.

Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by ashtonkem on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @05:37PM (#25663626)
The republic is at stake and armed rioters have broken into the capital. To let the president do this and do nothing is to give up more credibility. It is to admit that the legislature is incapable of even providing for its own physical security, let alone the needs of their constituents.
Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by meragrin_ on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @06:26PM (#25664216)
I keep seeing "armed rioters" but have not seen any evidence. Could you point me to it?
Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by jcranmer on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @06:33PM (#25664305)
I have heard reports of gunfire being exchanged through the door to the House: https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/1346905489561579532.

Surely that would qualify as "armed", and the "rioter" I would hope should be self-evident.

Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by meragrin_ on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @07:32PM (#25665252)
The gunfire was probably of the unarmed woman getting shot and killed: https://twitter.com/ALQadiPAL/status/1346960691278848000.

Highly doubt that it was an armed protester shooting.

Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by yzmtf2008 on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @07:53PM (#25665602)
> Highly doubt that it was an armed protester shooting.

Did you get that from the same place that you got the idea that the election was stolen?

Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by meragrin_ on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @08:35PM (#25666075)
No, I got it from the evidence an unarmed woman was shot and killed while the faces at the door where the "shooting" by the "armed rioters" allegedly took place were unharmed. Where did you get the idea that I believe the election was stolen? From the comment where I said "Now if we get to day three of this crap with no signs of it letting up, the National Guard unable to control the situation, and Trump actively supporting them, definitely throw him out."?
Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by eyelidlessness on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @11:59PM (#25667448)
> Highly doubt that it was an armed protester shooting.

Seems more likely than an unarmed protestor shooting?

Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by cyberlurker on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @07:04PM (#25664695)
Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by meragrin_ on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @07:35PM (#25665303)
If hundreds rioting and looting in multiple cities for multiple days for liberal causes only qualifies for "mostly peaceful protesters, this qualifies a "peaceful protesters" still.
Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by newacct583 on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @07:56PM (#25665646)
Where were the peaceful ones? BLM was a protest movement of something like 12M people, huge protests were covered extensively with no violence whatsoever. This was a mob that pushed down gates and forced entry into the capitol building. There was no "peaceful" component that I could see.
Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by jkepler on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @07:56PM (#25665643)
Evidence, please. I lived in a major US city, have a friend there who's a senior-level libertarian cleaning state trooper, and he told me the protests he knew about personally were peaceful. Nor did I see violent rioters myself.
Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by tomjakubowski on Thursday January 07, 2021 @02:29AM (#25668248)
Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by meragrin_ on Thursday January 07, 2021 @06:53PM (#25679382)
Man with AR-15 was police.

Man carrying a Glock? I don't see anything resembling a gun except on his hat.

Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by ashtonkem on Friday January 08, 2021 @01:52AM (#25682259)
On his right hip, it’s incredibly clear.
Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by rocqua on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @06:07PM (#25663972)
Rushing impeachment makes sense if it is totally clear for all involved that impeachment needs to happen.
Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by ashtonkem on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @08:21PM (#25665935)
Ideally it should be clear to everyone in Congress, yet...
Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by hinkley on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @08:24PM (#25665964)
From what I understand, impeachment can also bar an individual from public office again.

I'm not clear on whether that means the vote could extend past January 20th and the end result is that it goes on his permanent record.

Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by kayfox on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @08:36PM (#25666093)
President Johnson was impeached 3 days after the offense for which he was impeached, the senate then voted on the removal 8 days after that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Andrew_Johnson

Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by kadoban on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @08:40PM (#25666133)
Impeachment trial does not need to end when his term does. They can still bar him from any future office and show that the rule of law matters.
Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by noelsusman on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @05:29PM (#25663538)
There's no reason why it would need to take more than a few minutes.

It's not going to happen, but not due to time constraints.

Re:U.S. Capitol Locked Down Amid Escalating Protests by ansible on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @08:00PM (#25665709)
Usually as part of the impeachment vote, the Senate also decides if the President should be banned from holding office ever again. This would prevent a 2024 run by 45.