When the protesters have darker skin.

and it will be okay because COVID doesn't matter if your protesting for equality and justice, by burning down a Wendy's or looting everything in a Target or destroying a clothing store.

After the big riots in Chicago I drove out on Sunday to get some Taco Bell. There were bricks through it, everything was closed up, and a fat security guard sat on a chair doing nothing as people looted a clothing store.

Next day on the news the owner, a Korean American, said he lost $300,000 on a news broadcast. Insurance would cover none of it (insurance rarely covers riots) and he said he was considering declaring it a loss and closing the store forever.

During the 2nd riot they looted a 7/11 a man had restocked with his savings. He lost everything and it's closed now.

People are now scared out of their minds because people walked around the Capitol Build and broke a few desks. Was it wrong? absolutely? But it's a message:

The people peacefully strolled through your rich fucking establishment, sat in your chairs, found your candy drawer (that was funny) and then left ... oh and one unarmed woman got shot and died by a security officer, but she wasn't black, so we'll forget about her tomorrow.

That's the sad part of it all. People making a huge deal out of this, when it was a bunch of loud people who did nothing but accomplish a cool photo op at some government building and ending with only a single person dead.

That's enough for people to completely forget, ignore, and deflect from the entire summer of businesses burned down, people hurt and killed, and total chaos.

What a shitshow.

Attacking a seat of power is an insurrection. Occupying / disrupting a seat of power in a protest. It’s a thin but critical line.

Neither is a protest, both are acts of violence.

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Most of the reporting by media around events around the nation in response to police violence were called protests even as they devolved into violence and clear rioting so I am not sure where you get this position from

That's not true

I do not understand how people believe this. News clip after news clip shows a CNN or FOX or MSNBC anchor in front of buildings that are literally on fire and they're saying "This is a protest ... it's mostly peaceful."

It's like we're watching the same exact movie and yet we're seeing two totally different films.

Purely peaceful doesn't tend to make the news. There were many thousands of rallies overall, with millions of attendees. If a tiny part of those has even just a few dozen shitheads max, you both got truly "mostly peaceful" and enough unacceptably bad stuff to produce enough news reports to make people think the country is burning. Some media have attempted to quantify it later based on police reports, and from what I remember it mostly matches that model.

The "based on police reports" is also a false narrative

They are using a % of attendee's to come up with that, so if a "protest" was attended by 1,000 and only 10 people were arrested it was billed as "mostly peaceful" even though looting, fires, etc occurred.

It is a changing of the definition of what most reasonable people would consider a "peaceful protest"

> They are using a % of attendee's to come up with that,

no, reporting that says "1% of rallies had X reported" is not using a percentage of attendees.

And if seen myself at protests (not in the US/at BLM, to be clear) how much damage a dozen shitheads out of a few thousand attendees sadly can cause, and I would still qualify those as mostly peaceful (as did the authorities). This is in no way an excuse for those rioting, but it is for, you know, the vast majority of peaceful attendants (who in an escalating situation quite often are forced to stay, even if they don't want to)

So your response hinges on a single news outlet calling it riots and that is to represent all of the media?

When windows start getting broken, buildings set on fire, etc. From what I can gather thus far, it seems like it's people being where they're not supposed to be and refusing to leave.

edit from downthread

And there we go, they're breaking in now. Time to clean house.

Windows were broken, that's how the inurectionists entered the capitol.

Is there a source on that not coming from some rando's or politician's Twitter account?

CNN: https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/congress-electoral-co...

Ctrl+F for windows.

There it is, then. Thanks!

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