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Re:U.S. Bill H.R.69 introduced – To make daylight savings ti... by kibwen on Tuesday January 05, 2021 @12:22PM (#25647918)
I certainly prefer it, but I think it's too soon to say that "people" prefer it, unless you are aware of some kind of public poll that asked the question.
Re:U.S. Bill H.R.69 introduced – To make daylight savings ti... by lotsofpulp on Tuesday January 05, 2021 @12:39PM (#25648233)
WA/OR/CA are set to go DST permanently as soon as the federal government allows them to. Wonder where all the states’ rights small government politicians are.
Re:U.S. Bill H.R.69 introduced – To make daylight savings ti... by crumpled on Tuesday January 05, 2021 @02:04PM (#25649523)
I don't understand the sentiment. The reason we're set to follow the federal standard is because we voted for it on a ballot measure. (CA) So we're obviously exercising states rights.

I will say, however, that the ballot measure was confused by the arguments, with both sides arguing against time changes.

Re:U.S. Bill H.R.69 introduced – To make daylight savings ti... by lotsofpulp on Tuesday January 05, 2021 @03:06PM (#25650319)
https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_7,_Legislativ...

>Proposition 12 (1949), a ballot initiative that established DST in California, needed to be repealed. In California, a ballot initiative cannot be repealed without the consent of voters. Therefore, the state legislature could not take action to change time policy unless voters approved Proposition 7. This applied to both permanent daylight savings time and permanent standard time.[1]

As I understand, Prop 7 was needed to undo Prop 12, which then gave the CA state legislature the power to go with DST all year around, which they have indicated they want to since 2016:

>In 2016, the California State Legislature asked the President and Congress to pass an act that would allow California to adopt year-round DST.[2]

It seems that it's the federal government preventing the states from doing what they want to do, hence my quip about states' rights.

Re:U.S. Bill H.R.69 introduced – To make daylight savings ti... by philwelch on Tuesday January 05, 2021 @01:37PM (#25649111)
That would be roughly equivalent to merging the Pacific and Mountain time zones and abolishing DST in WA/OR/CA.

Which I also like. We can call it the Western time zone.

Re:U.S. Bill H.R.69 introduced – To make daylight savings ti... by toast0 on Tuesday January 05, 2021 @01:47PM (#25649236)
As someone else posted, there's been several passed initiatives about moving to permanent DST; and no passed initiatives (that I'm aware of) about moving to permanent standard time.

I would prefer standard time, but I'll accept any time as long as days are always 86400 seconds (+/- 1 second). I'm willing to have a separate discussion about leap seconds, but that seems like it's being determined by concensus among national standards bodies, not democratic action, so I have less influence.

Re:U.S. Bill H.R.69 introduced – To make daylight savings ti... by Wowfunhappy on Tuesday January 05, 2021 @02:51PM (#25650117)
Frankly, I just think people are wrong about this. It's surprisingly difficult to mentally think through what "moving time" really means. Having more sunlight in the evening seems good, but people forget that means you're effectively waking up earlier (where "earlier" is relative to the internal clock which is set by the sun, which we can't change).
Re:U.S. Bill H.R.69 introduced – To make daylight savings ti... by maxerickson on Tuesday January 05, 2021 @12:31PM (#25648079)
There's a lot of variation based on what part of time zones people live in (and how far north they are).

Here we have a month where daylight isn't a whole lot better than 8:00-5:00, so it's always amusing to hear people say that they like it to be daylight when they wake up (so 1.5 hours less sun here than San Francisco today, which is where the last person I saw with that complaint lives).

Re:U.S. Bill H.R.69 introduced – To make daylight savings ti... by SllX on Tuesday January 05, 2021 @12:35PM (#25648146)
California voted on it in a manner which was a ballot initiative but functionally served as a poll.

The text authorized the State legislature to make the change if Congress passed a law allowing the State to make the change. It passed.

Re:U.S. Bill H.R.69 introduced – To make daylight savings ti... by Abfrage on Tuesday January 05, 2021 @12:27PM (#25648008)