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Re:Gov.uk site broke Google realtime analytics during lockdo... by noncoml on Monday January 04, 2021 @06:03PM (#25639520)
Governmental sites should have everything self-hosted.

No Google Analytics, no CDN, no nothing.

Just like they shouldn't have presence in Private Social Media Networks. But that's my opinion.

Re:Gov.uk site broke Google realtime analytics during lockdo... by marcinzm on Monday January 04, 2021 @06:05PM (#25639532)
>no CDN

Then the website would have burned to the ground during this announcement.

Re:Gov.uk site broke Google realtime analytics during lockdo... by eznzt on Monday January 04, 2021 @06:11PM (#25639591)
Not if they had enough servers and bandwidth.
Re:Gov.uk site broke Google realtime analytics during lockdo... by Narkov on Monday January 04, 2021 @06:34PM (#25639771)
This is an inefficient use of government money to in-source everything. If private industry can do something cheaper and more effective, use common sense.
Re:Gov.uk site broke Google realtime analytics during lockdo... by gerdesj on Monday January 04, 2021 @07:29PM (#25640328)
At what point do you think that sovereignty outweighs price? I think that is the point that GF is on about.

There is a good case for some sort of in-sourcing when it comes to national systems. For example if, say, a Chinese diplomat toddled on over to you (let's say you are a US citizen and an important one) and asked you to use his country's foremost VPN solution for secure communications. Would you?

Now let's muddy the waters somewhat. Zoom? sounds a bit Anglo/Sax ... ish. It isn't of course. It also seems that Zoom forgot to encrypt their encrypted channels. lol.

There's more to security and stuff than cash. I do the boring old security thing for a living. It is boring but I like boring.

Re:Gov.uk site broke Google realtime analytics during lockdo... by Narkov on Monday January 04, 2021 @11:20PM (#25642070)
Of course sovereignty and overall data security should be considered. My point is that a blanket "no outsourcing" rule is daft and counterproductive.
Re:Gov.uk site broke Google realtime analytics during lockdo... by dopylitty on Monday January 04, 2021 @06:38PM (#25639806)
Private industry by definition can't do something cheaper and more effectively because its goal is to make money, not to make a quality or cheap product.
Re:Gov.uk site broke Google realtime analytics during lockdo... by vlovich123 on Monday January 04, 2021 @06:52PM (#25639961)
If existing companies utilize cloud providers and CDNs rather than investing in their own in-house infra, doesn’t that signal to you that perhaps your analysis of the situation is flawed?

It’s possible the government is a big enough customer that they could get the necessary economy of scale to make it cost effective, but it also means that they’re going to need to develop a bespoke solution that all government services build on which itself is an expensive endeavor (and politically a liability since such a project can fail to deliver and just balloon in cost).

Re:Gov.uk site broke Google realtime analytics during lockdo... by gowld on Tuesday January 05, 2021 @01:14PM (#25648750)
The government could rent our spare compute as a cloud provider, of course, to recapture expense. Then we can ask how dare the government spy on private citizen web traffic like that.
Re:Gov.uk site broke Google realtime analytics during lockdo... by CydeWeys on Monday January 04, 2021 @06:48PM (#25639920)
Let's imagine that I had to make a website that could host a million concurrent users once per year. What do you think is cheaper, me acquiring all of the hardware to scale to a million users and then leaving it idle 99.9% of the time, or outsource handling that peak traffic to someone who's already operating at the scale for it?

The UK government does not remotely need the same year-round capacity as a top-tier CDN.