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Re:A group of Google workers have announced plans to unionize by asdfasgasdgasdg on Monday January 04, 2021 @11:00AM (#25632970)
> When the vision maps to 80 / 90 percent of labor at that enterprise, the effort to unionize can win.

The odds of this happening at Google in the next ten years are pretty low, I'd say. That's why they organized this as a members-only union rather than trying to do a real unionization drive.

Re:A group of Google workers have announced plans to unionize by ddingus on Monday January 04, 2021 @11:24AM (#25633432)
I agree. It will be interesting to see it play out.

Members only does lower the bar considerably.

Size matters. If it gets big?

New ideas matter too.

The traditional union struggle has become very difficult in the US. The high solidarity numbers required today are 20 to 30 points more than necessary before.

Re:A group of Google workers have announced plans to unionize by asdfasgasdgasdg on Tuesday January 05, 2021 @06:58PM (#25653049)
Someone told me that union dues are 1% of annual compensation. Wild. Although I learned that teachers pay closer to 2%. Seems like a lot.
Re:A group of Google workers have announced plans to unionize by ddingus on Tuesday January 05, 2021 @08:39PM (#25653796)
Depends, doesn't it?

Solid negotiations basically pay the dues and then some.

This may not be true for all diciplines / positions.

In terms of risks, marginalizing those is worth something too.

For many, just keeping health care sane is worth a lot more than a couple points.

Re:A group of Google workers have announced plans to unionize by asdfasgasdgasdg on Wednesday January 06, 2021 @07:15PM (#25664876)
For teachers that totally makes sense. But this is a minority union that will not have collective bargaining power in the foreseeable future.