Re:A group of Google workers have announced plans to unionize
by lr4444lr on Monday January 04, 2021 @08:21AM
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There is plenty of evidence that I've seen firsthand in municipal government of unions protecting and promoting incompetent IT talent. It doesn't all fall to @#$& solely because government tech is often very slow to change, so mediocre workers can train on very specific applications and not need much continuing ed. I scarcely ever met one that would get hired at either a FAANG or a tech startup. I will qualify this by saying it's U.S. only. Maybe other countries handle this all much better, but we're dealing with Google U.S. in this story.
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Re:A group of Google workers have announced plans to unionize
by pydry on Monday January 04, 2021 @10:04AM
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Given the amount of incompetent talent I've seen promoted without a union because they cozy up to management I have a really hard time believing the picture would be any worse with them.
Meritocracy is orthogonal to unionization, I think, though I doubt there's an employer in the world that doesn't believe that their decisions are entirely meritocratic.
The argument "[institution]* tends to towards corruption therefore we shouldn't have [institution]" is a logical fallacy in all cases, since all human institutions tend towards corruption but we still need them.
* replace [institution] with government, government department, police, corporations, unions, etc. and the fallacy remains the same.
Re:A group of Google workers have announced plans to unionize
by tempuser189 on Monday January 04, 2021 @12:11PM
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Oh trust me, it gets much much worse after unionization, since businesses have little ability to let go of unproductive workers.
Re:A group of Google workers have announced plans to unionize
by whimsicalism on Monday January 04, 2021 @10:32AM
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I agree that government tech is usually pretty not great, but I am not sure if that has to do with unions per se or perhaps the government's antiquated pay scales/lack of civil service exam.