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Re:URL shorteners set ad tracking cookies by miked85 on Sunday January 03, 2021 @06:16PM (#25626215)
That list is questionable at best.

There are many claims the list author makes without any source code at all, though a lot of buzzwords. The reddit r/pihole moderator pulled the post: https://www.reddit.com/r/pihole/comments/kh5dit/the_quantum_... . The thread was more entertaining before the list author deleted every downvoted comment they made.

Re:URL shorteners set ad tracking cookies by Jap2-0 on Sunday January 03, 2021 @07:27PM (#25626670)
[0] is perhaps even more concerning - apparently it bears a striking resemblance to Steven Black's (slightly more reputable) list[1] [edit: plus a few hundred thousand other rules of questionable sourcing].

[0] https://gitlab.com/The_Quantum_Alpha/the-quantum-ad-list/-/i...

https://github.com/StevenBlack/hosts/issues/1487

[1] https://github.com/StevenBlack/hosts

Re:URL shorteners set ad tracking cookies by Merman_Mike on Sunday January 03, 2021 @09:17PM (#25627300)
I agree that it's questionable. I commented the same in the thread I linked: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25513161

However, at least for Pi-Hole users, more is usually better, so I added the list to my Pi-Hole.

Re:URL shorteners set ad tracking cookies by phire on Sunday January 03, 2021 @09:34PM (#25627406)
> > We were testing an AI that could show some basic emotions about internet content, and turns out it was very precise at getting “annoyed” by ads and “unsolicited” third party connections…

Holy shit that's such bullshit.

They are basically claiming they invented a artificial general intelligence, with feelings, that happens to feel the same way about ads as us. It's basically sentient instead of publishing research papers, they turned it into an ad blocker.

Re:URL shorteners set ad tracking cookies by srtjstjsj on Monday January 04, 2021 @12:06AM (#25628089)
It's just colorful language for the fact that ads and spyware score high on their model for bad websites.
Re:URL shorteners set ad tracking cookies by phire on Monday January 04, 2021 @02:53AM (#25628713)
First: Marketing bullshit is still bullshit.

Even if it's not morally wrong, it makes you look like an idiot who doesn't understand the technology you are selling. In the worst case it might even be used as evidence that your work is a fraud.

There is no benefit; To the lay person, It would sound just as impressive to say "We trained a machine learning model to detect ads and spyware" and that wouldn't immediately set off alarm bells with people familiar with the current state of machine learning.

Second: Talking about fraud, the evidence linked above is pretty strong.

Their alleged AI is somehow detecting test domains that authors of other lists as "ads or spyware". Test domains that aren't linked anywhere on the internet.

In one "smoking gun" example, the test domain doesn't even have a DNS entry. The alleged AI can't even load the domain to scan it.

Re:URL shorteners set ad tracking cookies by llacb47 on Sunday January 03, 2021 @09:35PM (#25627408)
No, more is not usually better. Especially with a garbage ""AI-generated"" (not) list with untrustworthy maintainers like this one. It's better to add a low number of lists with trusted maintainers, who actively curate their lists and respond to false positives. That means no "mega-list" abominations like oisd.nl.

I suggest: https://www.github.developerdan.com/hosts/

https://gitlab.com/curben/urlhaus-filter/raw/master/urlhaus-...

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/notracking/hosts-blocklist...

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/anudeepND/blacklist/master...

Re:URL shorteners set ad tracking cookies by Merman_Mike on Sunday January 03, 2021 @10:44PM (#25627744)
Can you explain why more is not usually better?

I added the 4 lists you recommended to my Pi-Hole, which added a net new 73,253 domains to my Pi-Hole. My total is now close to 2M.

Re:URL shorteners set ad tracking cookies by PixyMisa on Monday January 04, 2021 @12:17AM (#25628125)
You could just blacklist *.com and be done with it.
Re:URL shorteners set ad tracking cookies by freebuju on Monday January 04, 2021 @02:30AM (#25628619)
You joke but I would be most happy if all my web needs could be served on .onion addresses