Re:Oxford-AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine approved for use i...
by CuriousSkeptic on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @08:40AM
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> is it true that nursing home inhabitants per default (and regardless of a pandemic) do not get ICU level care anyway?
No
All Swedes have the right to the best possible care based on the individuals needs
In coordination with the patient and/or next of kind it’s possible to take decisions to exclude life preserving care if it is determined to be in the best interest for the individual
It is never up to the care giver to take such decisions
Re:Oxford-AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine approved for use i...
by collyw on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @10:48AM
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> is it true that nursing home inhabitants per default (and regardless of a pandemic) do not get ICU level care anyway?
That's the case here in Spain for at least some of the oldest patients. Anaesthetizing someone frail and putting a ventilator down their throat stresses the system a lot, so isn't worth the risk - according to a doctor I know who was on the front lines. It sounded like standard medical practice (and she has worked in other countries).
Re:Oxford-AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine approved for use i...
by frenchy on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @12:45PM
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There's a bit of a difference though between "all nursing home patients" and "the exceedingly frail ones". This might vary between countries to, as people in some countries might get put in nursing homes sooner than others.
In Germany, you typically get 100% care unless you have specified that you do not want it (or your relatives make this difficult call). So the triage threat has been described by doctors as something along the lines of "we would effectively no longer try to treat a 90 year old nursing home patient with severe dementia in our ICU"