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Re:Archaeologists uncover ancient street food shop in Pompeii by konjin on Sunday December 27, 2020 @08:58PM (#25556018)
>So, what, the swastika iconography and neo-Nazi decor/flags not enough for you?

No.

Behold a Nazi:

https://old.reddit.com/r/goth/comments/ire2cs/what_is_up_wit...

The sinequanon of American consumer culture is style over substance.

Want to be a Nazi? Buy this flag.

Want to be a Communist? Buy this beret.

Never mind seeing what the ideology actually stood for. That would require an uncomfortable, and possibly dangerous, amount of thinking.

>And there are plenty of college students who genuinely believe in communism.

No there aren't. There are plenty of college students who like social democracy, there are very few who want to empower the working class American - fat, white and 40.

Re:Archaeologists uncover ancient street food shop in Pompeii by tomc1985 on Sunday December 27, 2020 @09:08PM (#25556074)
> That would require an uncomfortable, and possibly dangerous, amount of thinking.

About, what? Slaughtering everyone not part of the master race? Yeah, tons of thought there, all of it stuck in the stone age.

You are viewing "American consumerism" through a very narrow lens, and an incorrect one at that. The people that buy nazi stuff here generally drink the koolaid. I don't know what you're reading but naziism is still taboo here.

Re:Archaeologists uncover ancient street food shop in Pompeii by konjin on Sunday December 27, 2020 @09:33PM (#25556179)
I find the people who think there is such a thing as an American Nazi movement are the ones whose idea of what a Nazi is comes from Marvel comics' Hydra.

A simple question: have you actually read Mein Kampf or the Communist Manifesto?

Re:Archaeologists uncover ancient street food shop in Pompeii by cygx on Sunday December 27, 2020 @10:37PM (#25556471)
You don't think it's a bit more than bad cosplay when you have people marching to chants of 'Jews will not replace us'?
Re:Archaeologists uncover ancient street food shop in Pompeii by konjin on Sunday December 27, 2020 @11:48PM (#25556762)
I think that there are way more than 500 Nazis in the US.

I also think that they have as much power as witches did in Salem, for largely the same reasons.

That said don't expect the moral panic to calm down any time soon. It's odd seeing the side of politics I identified with until recently become a larger danger to democracy than the side I was sure would implement a theocracy.

Re:Archaeologists uncover ancient street food shop in Pompeii by TheOtherHobbes on Monday December 28, 2020 @03:54AM (#25557744)
You can be a fascist without being a Nazi.

Fascism is an authoritarian nationalist death cult which glorifies in violence and war, believes in strict competitive social hierarchies where some people are born inherently and disposably inferior to others, and is deeply threatened by non-conformity.

Fascism is also pro-corporate and anti-localist. And it's fundamentally Romantic and emotional, and deliberately anti-rational.

Nazis were a subset of fascism. The US and Russia both show many signs of same in embryo but without the goose stepping and the silly helmets.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/21521958/what-is-fas...

Re:Archaeologists uncover ancient street food shop in Pompeii by varjag on Monday December 28, 2020 @04:51AM (#25557977)
Russia does tons of goose-stepping. Something Trump also attempted to introduce for 4th July celebrations in America.
Re:Archaeologists uncover ancient street food shop in Pompeii by vkou on Monday December 28, 2020 @05:58AM (#25558244)
A few points.

1. There's a clear continuity of goose-stepping in Russia from a time that long predates Putin.

2. We have goose-stepping in the United States, too, that long predates Trump, and will almost certainly outlast him. It doesn't look like weird one-handed salutes, it looks like a daily recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance.

Re:Archaeologists uncover ancient street food shop in Pompeii by varjag on Monday December 28, 2020 @06:49AM (#25558502)
1. Yes, an influence from 19th century Prussia, notorious proto-fascist state.

2. You can argue for a lot of things metaphorically and perhaps even have a case, but that's not goose-stepping.