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Re:Mass die-off of birds in south-western US 'caused by star... by hombre_fatal on Saturday December 26, 2020 @05:01PM (#25546778)
Defaulting to keeping your cat indoors is cruel. Instead put out some bird feeders.

Cats love the outdoors. It's evil to take that away from them. Not all cats even kill birds.

Re:Mass die-off of birds in south-western US 'caused by star... by krisroadruck on Saturday December 26, 2020 @05:26PM (#25546923)
You really don't know what you are talking about mate. Indoor cats live 13-17 years. Outdoor cats average 2-5. What's cruel is willfully exposing your cat to an environment that will very likely result in a reduction of their lifespan by 60-80%. There are plenty of ways to stimulate a cat that don't involve dramatic risk of disease, parasites, disfigurement or death by predator or vehicle.
Re:Mass die-off of birds in south-western US 'caused by star... by h_anna_h on Saturday December 26, 2020 @05:47PM (#25547048)
Pretty sure that you are talking about feral cats rather than cats that are allowed to go outdoors.
Re:Mass die-off of birds in south-western US 'caused by star... by krisroadruck on Monday December 28, 2020 @07:57AM (#25558854)
I am not. I am talking about domestic cats allowed to roam outdoors unsupervised some of the time.
Re:Mass die-off of birds in south-western US 'caused by star... by throwawaysea on Sunday December 27, 2020 @03:36AM (#25549734)
What’s your source on the life expectancy of outdoor cats? I haven’t observed this having any impact myself. Cats that stay indoors and ones that free roam seem to have the same life expectancy. The ones that roam even seem healthier.
Re:Mass die-off of birds in south-western US 'caused by star... by krisroadruck on Monday December 28, 2020 @08:01AM (#25558875)
Human Society and University of California-Davis.
Re:Mass die-off of birds in south-western US 'caused by star... by h_anna_h on Wednesday December 30, 2020 @12:17PM (#25583527)
Would you happen to have the exact paper?
Re:Mass die-off of birds in south-western US 'caused by star... by zimpenfish on Saturday December 26, 2020 @06:56PM (#25547492)
> Outdoor cats average 2-5.

On the other anecdata, my parents have only had outdoor cats and every single one has made it past 5 - several past 10, one past 20. Of the 10 I can think of just now, only 1 died of "unnatural" causes (car).

Re:Mass die-off of birds in south-western US 'caused by star... by ShinTakuya on Saturday December 26, 2020 @06:08PM (#25547193)
The pet cat industry in general is evil. Keeping them indoors is the best way to protect local wildlife, there are still many ways to make an indoor cat happy. If it were up to me, breeding of cats would be banned and existing populations would be the "final" permitted generation.
Re:Mass die-off of birds in south-western US 'caused by star... by tracker1 on Sunday December 27, 2020 @09:02AM (#25551080)
Or, we have one final generation of people and let nature sort itself out...