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Re:UK and EU agree Brexit trade deal by Brakenshire on Thursday December 24, 2020 @10:50AM (#25528517)
It’s really incredible the lack of technical detail there is in reporting of the EU and Brexit. As you say, it’s very difficult to pick out exactly what this means.

Some limitations which I do know of:

* British nationals can’t live and work freely on Europe, so an architect based in London can’t jump on a Eurostar and take a business meeting in Paris by default, they would have to get a visa specific to the country and activity. And their professional qualifications may not be recognised, so would have to operate through local professionals (not sure how that would work in practice).

* Products sold into the EU will have to be recertified for that market, no assumption of regulatory compliance or compatibility. So a lot more red tape and checks in moving products across borders, in particular that will impact food and products built as part of just in time supply chains.

* No ability for British firms to operate in other European countries with equivalent rights as a local company, will have to form subsidiaries instead in many cases.

Would be interested what else people can add.

Re:UK and EU agree Brexit trade deal by aries1980 on Thursday December 24, 2020 @12:32PM (#25529476)
> No ability for British firms to operate in other European countries with equivalent rights as a local company, will have to form subsidiaries instead in many cases.

This has never been the case.

To enjoy full rights, you have to have a local office. Tax forms e.g. Hungarian employment tax forms doesn't even accept the UK postcodes as administrative address, let alone grant application forms.

Re:UK and EU agree Brexit trade deal by ska on Thursday December 24, 2020 @05:22PM (#25532041)
Having a local office isn't the same as having a subsidiary. All of this will mostly make accountants happy, I suspect.
Re:UK and EU agree Brexit trade deal by rvba on Thursday December 24, 2020 @08:15PM (#25533294)
You are confusing having to pay taxes with things like permanent establishment.
Re:UK and EU agree Brexit trade deal by Closi on Thursday December 24, 2020 @12:15PM (#25529316)
That first limitation you mentioned is not true - you do not need a visa to go for a business meeting, just as you don’t need a visa to go for a meeting in any other country.

The second also isn’t true - no recertification appears to be required but could be required in the future should legislation diverge.

Re:UK and EU agree Brexit trade deal by Brakenshire on Thursday December 24, 2020 @03:20PM (#25531050)
https://www.gov.uk/visit-europe-1-january-2021/business-trav...

As well as the actions all travellers need to take, there are extra actions if you’re travelling to the EU for business.

Business travel includes activities such as travelling for meetings and conferences, providing services (even with a charity), and touring art or music.

Entry requirements The country you’re travelling to might have its own entry requirements, or ask you to have certain documents.

Check the entry requirements for the country you’re visiting.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-24/johnson-i...

The deal doesn’t include any mutual recognition of conformity assessment [...] meaning firms will have to pay the regulatory cost of certification twice if they wish to sell their products in both the U.K. and the bloc

Re:UK and EU agree Brexit trade deal by pjc50 on Thursday December 24, 2020 @05:00PM (#25531842)
You absolutely do need a visa or waiver to go to a business meeting in a country which does not have an entry agreement.

People heading to conferences in the UK have occasionally been caught by aggressive immigration officers and deported.

Re:UK and EU agree Brexit trade deal by Symbiote on Thursday December 24, 2020 @05:00PM (#25531847)
You need a visa to go to any other country, by default.

If you're from Western or Northern Europe, or North America, you will often be exempt for tourism, conferences and meetings for similar countries.

But I, and probably you, need a business visa for a simple meeting in Moscow.

It's up to each EU country what requirements they put on British visitors, but it looks like at least some will require visas for at least some types of business.

Re:UK and EU agree Brexit trade deal by stevejpurves on Thursday December 24, 2020 @04:38PM (#25531683)
Really? If it wasn't for the visa waiver programme in the US for example, being from the UK wouldn't I need a visa to enter?