Re:Hotwire: HTML over the Wire
by matthoiland on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @02:16PM
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Consumers want electronic starters on their chainsaws – but they're less reliable, prone to error, more expensive, etc... in the end, us engineers gotta make products that people will buy.
Re:Hotwire: HTML over the Wire
by rorykoehler on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @03:25PM
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Do people really want that stuff out do they just think they want it?
Do people think they want it, or do developers and designers think the people want it?!
I'm a developer and I definitely want that stuff some of the time. On platforms that can handle it, absolutely. I love all the animations in macOS and I always have. GNOME and Windows are nice but they don't feel like home in the same way, they don't have sophisticated and fluid animations.
They need to be performant and they need to improve the usability of the system, not reduce it. That's the criteria. It's often not achievable with the web, though people try.
Re:Hotwire: HTML over the Wire
by IggleSniggle on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @11:31PM
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I also love the animations in macOS, but fwiw each version of iOS feels like a step backwards for usability to me.
Re:Hotwire: HTML over the Wire
by scythmic_waves on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @03:41PM
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If you have trouble selling a product without that stuff, does it make a difference?
Re:Hotwire: HTML over the Wire
by ymolodtsov on Wednesday December 23, 2020 @03:44AM
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Not sure since when undiscoverable command line interfaces are simple. Simple to make, yes, but not easy to use compared to the most basic visual solution where its creator put a lot of thought.
>UI/UX researchers
Is that with respect to Web Page / Tech?
Because people expect different things for Apps and WebPages.
Re:Hotwire: HTML over the Wire
by freedomben on Wednesday December 23, 2020 @12:11PM
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Great question, largely yes web page / tech but I used to work on a Qt desktop app and it was the same story there. Luckily Qt made animations fairly easy and performant.
Source: UI/UX researchers tell me this when I push back and say "let's keep the tech simple and forgo some of the animations, etc in the name of using simple OOTB stuff without hacking thousands of lines of JS together." Also family members will tell me the same things.