What does privacy mean under surveillance capitalism?

Re:What does privacy mean under surveillance capitalism? by rebeccaskinner on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @01:57PM (#25509783)

And yet this article is on a page completely saturated by trackers, 28 items blocked by Ublock Origin, and another 14 blocked by Privacy Badger by my count. I didn't even bother to check the number of items caught by the pihole, and I'm sure there are a few things that got through because they haven't made it into the relevant blocklists yet. People can bemoan the lack of privacy (and should) but it's empty words until we're willing to take a stand and not participate in the systems that are mining every bit of data that can be had en-mass.

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Re:What does privacy mean under surveillance capitalism? by ntsplnkv2 on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @04:03PM (#25511211)

> People can bemoan the lack of privacy (and should) but it's empty words until we're willing to take a stand and not participate in the systems that are mining every bit of data that can be had en-mass.

That's the problem that is so poignantly illustrated by this post - you can't not participate, or you lose. That's what makes it so insidious and why we shouldn't just dismiss good arguments out of hand for this reason.

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Re:What does privacy mean under surveillance capitalism? by Daho0n on Wednesday December 23, 2020 @04:37AM (#25516001)

>you can't not participate, or you lose

Sure you can unless you shoot yourself in the foot and try to run an online ad business without ads or tracking....

Our businesses website has exactly zero trackers and zero external calls, yet we live just fine. If I really want to see some stats I can just look at it via the webserver logs. This is just people being lazy and/or greedy.

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Re:What does privacy mean under surveillance capitalism? by sudosysgen on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @07:27PM (#25513073)

"You dislike capitalism, yet you participate in it. Curious!"

It's almost as if you don't have much of a choice to participate.

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Re:What does privacy mean under surveillance capitalism? by jevgeni on Wednesday December 23, 2020 @12:29AM (#25514679)

NOT add trackers on this post?

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Re:What does privacy mean under surveillance capitalism? by sudosysgen on Wednesday December 23, 2020 @11:03AM (#25518974)

Possible for a blog or passion project. If you're attempting to make money out of it then you don't have that much of a choice because you have to compete against people that do. I still personally prefer they didn't but I don't fault them if they didn't.

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Re:What does privacy mean under surveillance capitalism? by medicineman on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @03:30PM (#25510862)

As if the title didn't tell you everything you needed to know.

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