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Re:What does privacy mean under surveillance capitalism? by ntsplnkv2 on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @04:03PM (#25511211)
> People can bemoan the lack of privacy (and should) but it's empty words until we're willing to take a stand and not participate in the systems that are mining every bit of data that can be had en-mass.

That's the problem that is so poignantly illustrated by this post - you can't not participate, or you lose. That's what makes it so insidious and why we shouldn't just dismiss good arguments out of hand for this reason.

Re:What does privacy mean under surveillance capitalism? by Daho0n on Wednesday December 23, 2020 @04:37AM (#25516001)
>you can't not participate, or you lose

Sure you can unless you shoot yourself in the foot and try to run an online ad business without ads or tracking....

Our businesses website has exactly zero trackers and zero external calls, yet we live just fine. If I really want to see some stats I can just look at it via the webserver logs. This is just people being lazy and/or greedy.