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Re:Cryptocurrency company Ripple says SEC lawsuit is imminent by efwfwef on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @02:02AM (#25503735)
It's a currency based on cryptography, let's not try to exclude projects based on random definitions. You want to be more specific, like, it is not censorship-resistant.
Re:Cryptocurrency company Ripple says SEC lawsuit is imminent by fastball on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @02:10AM (#25503780)
Ok, but the cryptography is pointless if it's a centralized system.
Re:Cryptocurrency company Ripple says SEC lawsuit is imminent by petersellers on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @02:48AM (#25503969)
How so?
Re:Cryptocurrency company Ripple says SEC lawsuit is imminent by martinko on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @02:56AM (#25504023)
Because you might as well just use an SQL database
Re:Cryptocurrency company Ripple says SEC lawsuit is imminent by pat2man on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @03:06AM (#25504074)
“Proof of authority” chains are a lot more than just a database. There is still a verifiable audit trail etc.
Re:Cryptocurrency company Ripple says SEC lawsuit is imminent by saberdancer on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @03:18AM (#25504131)
Nothing stops you from having a verifiable audit trail in a SQL database. You could even decentralize the audit trail.

Problem with Ripple is creation of new XRPs, they had full control over that.

Re:Cryptocurrency company Ripple says SEC lawsuit is imminent by thinkloop on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @04:11AM (#25504418)
How do you decentralize the audit trail? Would need something like ripple
Re:Cryptocurrency company Ripple says SEC lawsuit is imminent by strken on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @07:16AM (#25505537)
Generate a cumulative checksum of everything that happened yesterday plus the previous day's checksum, and post it in the local paper, on your website, and in all investor documentation.
Re:Cryptocurrency company Ripple says SEC lawsuit is imminent by px43 on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @03:18AM (#25504129)
Eh, last I checked the five primary validator nodes are all run by Ripple.com. Not really "POA" when there's only one authority IMO.
Re:Cryptocurrency company Ripple says SEC lawsuit is imminent by jnwatson on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @03:36AM (#25504239)
So, a database plus digital signatures.
Re:Cryptocurrency company Ripple says SEC lawsuit is imminent by waynesonfire on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @03:19AM (#25504140)
so a sql database
Re:Cryptocurrency company Ripple says SEC lawsuit is imminent by harkal on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @05:31AM (#25504864)
So files with indexes... so storage devices with a file systems... so... so bits of information...
Re:Cryptocurrency company Ripple says SEC lawsuit is imminent by ForHackernews on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @08:15AM (#25505907)
FWIW, this is how I feel about every crypto-so-called- "currency".
Re:Cryptocurrency company Ripple says SEC lawsuit is imminent by martinko on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @09:40AM (#25506637)
Don't want to get into an argument about crypto currencies, but the value proposition of BTC is different. What is not replaceable by a simple DB is it decentralization and resilience to attack, its resistance to seizure and its incorruptibility in terms of maximum supply (the digital gold / store of value narrative).
Re:Cryptocurrency company Ripple says SEC lawsuit is imminent by ForHackernews on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @10:32AM (#25507163)
It's worth highlighting that there are distributed databases that meet all those criteria except "incorruptibility in terms of maximum supply". You're right to point out that there are a few very specific use cases that a distributed blockchain with multiple independently-owned verification nodes will satisfy and other more performant databases will not. Whether that makes them "valuable" like gold is left as an exercise for the reader.
Re:Cryptocurrency company Ripple says SEC lawsuit is imminent by ric2b on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @01:00PM (#25509147)
Distributed is not the same as decentralized.

A decentralized system is a distributed system that still works _when nodes are owned by multiple different (even competing/malicious) parties_.

Re:Cryptocurrency company Ripple says SEC lawsuit is imminent by fastball on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @03:08PM (#25510581)
Exactly. In other words, a "trustless" system.

See the Byzantine Generals Problem[1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_fault

Re:Cryptocurrency company Ripple says SEC lawsuit is imminent by ForHackernews on Wednesday December 23, 2020 @08:21AM (#25517320)
yes, yes, I said that already: "...multiple independently-owned verification nodes..."
Re:Cryptocurrency company Ripple says SEC lawsuit is imminent by icf80 on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @03:13AM (#25504099)
you hold the key to decide what to do with the funds
Re:Cryptocurrency company Ripple says SEC lawsuit is imminent by fastball on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @03:17AM (#25504125)
Which Ripple can invalidate if they control the network, which they do.